1) If you attack with Joven's Ferrets and the 1/3 ferrets gets killed in combat (gets blocked by a fattie or so) will the tapping ability still trigger?
Joven’s Ferrets
G, Summon Ferrets 1/1, Homelands Common
If declared as an attacker, Joven’s Ferrets gets +0/+2 until end of turn. At end of combat, tap any creatures that blocked Joven’s Ferrets. Those creatures do not untap during their controller’s next untap phase.
2) If you play Ostracize and the only creature in your opponent hand is a Dodecapod, will you be forced to choose it or not?
Ostracize
B, Sorcery, 7th Edition Common
Target opponent reveals his or her hand. Choose a creature card from it. That player discards that card.
Dodecapod
4, Artifact Creature 3/3, Apocalypse Uncommon
If a spell or ability an opponent controls causes you to discard Dodecapod from your hand, put it into play with two +1/+1 counters on it instead of putting it into your graveyard.
And another question,
if your opponent says "I won't attack" or he just doesn't have any creatures in play, will there still be declare attackers, declare blockers, deal damage and and of combat steps??
So can you play Fog Patch when no creature is attacking you, just to put a +1/+1 counter on your Titania's Chosen
Fog Patch
1G, Instant, Nemesis Common
Play Fog Patch only during the declare blockers step. Attacking creatures become blocked. (This spell works on unblockable creatures.)
Titania’s Chosen
2G, Summon Elf 1/1, Urza’s Saga Uncommon
Whenever a player successfully casts a green spell, put a +1/+1 counter on Titania’s Chosen.
I saw in an older conversation, that you WILL have to choose the Dodecapod as long as no other creatures are there, this is fun, (mostly for the player with the Dodecapod)
Quote:1) If you attack with Joven's Ferrets and the 1/3 ferrets gets killed in combat (gets blocked by a fattie or so) will the tapping ability still trigger?
Quote:1) If you attack with Joven's Ferrets and the 1/3 ferrets gets killed in combat (gets blocked by a fattie or so) will the tapping ability still trigger?
Quote:can you play Fog Patch when no creature is attacking you, just to put a +1/+1 counter on your Titania's Chosen
But with the question about the Joven's Ferrets, at end of combat the Joven Ferrets is no longer in play but you say that the ability still triggers? Why is that, does the ability trigger when the Ferrets is attacking, but only really happens at end of combat?
And about the combat steps, you just declare no attackers, no blockers, no combat damage is dealt and so on... So I am right when I say that you still have a discard phase even when you have no cards in hand, okay, thanks.
You don't have a discard phase anymore.
Joven's Ferrets was declared attacking wasn't it?
Joven's Ferrets reads this:
Joven’s Ferrets
G, Summon Ferrets 1/1, Homelands Common
If declared as an attacker, Joven’s Ferrets gets +0/+2 until end of turn. At end of combat, tap any creatures that blocked Joven’s Ferrets. Those creatures do not untap during their controller’s next untap phase.
You say that when you declared an attack with the Ferrets, the tapping of the blockers ability always triggers, whether or not the Ferrets survive until end of combat step (where the ability actually happens)????????
And about the other thing, why do you have an declare attackers and declare blockers step when you don't have any creatures, but don't have an discard step when there is nothing to discard?
"The declare blockers and combat damage steps are skipped if no creatures are declared as attackers." -From the Comprehensive Rules.
So, no you would not be able to cast Fog Patch if there are no attackers.
Rakso didn't mean that there is no discard phase if you have anything to discard, there just isn't a discard phase anymore. It's part of the cleanup step of the End Phase.
The ability is triggered as soon as the Ferrets get blocked. It will then happen regardless of whether the Ferrets are around anymore or not. As with any triggered (or activated) ability, once triggered it will happen even if the cause leaves play.
Thank you,
about the Fog Patch, it's clear now.
about the Ferrets, i thought the ability would trigger at end of combat, but it already triggers on the Ferrets becoming blocked in the first place.
Random - you would be correct if the Ferrets had two abilities, one giving +0/+2 and another tapping its blockers. Since the two effects are written as part of the same ability, though, it triggers once when you declare attackers, then the two effects happen at their appropriate times.
Joven's Ferrets
G
Creature - Ferret
1/1
Whenever Joven's Ferrets attacks, it gets +0/+2 until end of turn.
At end of combat, tap all creatures that blocked Joven's Ferrets this turn. They don't untap during their controller's next untap step.
Gzeiger: there's 2 abilities on the Ferret. This is the Oracle wording.
Also, the secong ability is triggered only at the end of combat. If the Ferret isn't there, the ability won't trigger.
If the second ability was meant to trigger on the declaration of blockers, it would be worded like Thicket Basilisk and such creatures.
Thicket Basilisk
3GG
Creature - Basilisk
2/4
Whenever Thicket Basilisk blocks or becomes blocked by a non-Wall creature, destroy that creature at end of combat.
Lifeline
5
Artifact
Whenever a creature is put into a graveyard and another creature is in play, return the first creature from that graveyard to play under its owner's control at end of turn.
The Basilisk, just like Lifeline, creates a Delayed Trigger Ability, while the Ferret's wording is just a simple Triggered ability. I don't know if the intent of the card is that it should work even if it's killed, but with the actual wording, it won't.