But in terms of winning and loosing, yes it is dumb I just wanted to share a story with you guys. It happened many, many years ago, when I was young and when Type I was as big as Type II. It involves two of my friends in a multi player session.
Olliver just obtained a Black Lotus. It was beat up and looked really bad, but it was a Lotus, the first one in our play group, and it was signed.
Olliver told us stories about HIS Lotus. He said that it talks to him. That the Lotus tells tales out of his former games.
Olliver built a new deck for his new Lotus. He said that the Lotus himself designed the deck, dictating the decklist when they (!) were on the toilet (he always builds his decks while shitting).
Game starts, Olliver wins the dieroll and begins.
Believe me or not, he had THE Lotus in his opening hand and played it first.
Then there was Juan. Juan is Ollivers best enemy. They always quarrel, curse and piss each other off.
Olliver plays the first Lotus of our group the first time in his life in the the first round, going first.
And Juan removes a Vesuvan to counter the Lotus with Force of Will !!!
He could have countered whatever Olliver was going to cast out of the Lotus, but he insisted on countering the Lotus!
Imagine their bitching, whining and quarreling for the rest of the evening!
I am still happy when I remember those days.
I once had this guy spellblast my mox ruby. It didn't help that this guy was pushing every single 'nerd' stereotype possible. He shouted, '1st turn counterspell, YES!' and looked around for someone to high-five him for his great play. Of course, no one would even look directly at him. Possibly one of the more annoying people I ever played against, as in 'annoying in a very strange way.'
In my case it wasn´t annoying, it was funny!
Okay, it was annoying for Olliver. But that was the reason for Juan to counter it! They always did things like this and exclusively to each other.
But you are right, people who disenchant Moxes "cause they are expensive" are really dumb.
...but man it pisses the owner of the mox off if it's his only power card But in terms of winning and loosing, yes it is dumb
Not if the pissed off player makes even more stupid moves to take revenge ...
I thought your story was funny. Especially "This lotus speaks to me!" I used to develop emotional attachments to my cards, I once named all my Shivan Dragons, etc. Then I realized that it just made me angry when someone killed them . . . this is magic, not D&D. Oh yeah, and then I grew up, too. ;-)
Oh, and I have to mention this. Speaking of "I kill your most expensive cards!" types, I once had a guy Jester's Cap me and take out my three moxes. I already had a half-decent mana base, so I was like "Thanks!" Some people . . .
My girlfriend used to disenchant one of your Moxes if you attacked or damaged her ... that was annoying and worked most of the time!
I'd counter the first P9-card I would be against too... Come on, just for the feeling of COUNTERING a P9-card...
I counter anything and everything.
1st turn - Island
Whatever my opponent playes, Force Spike it.
2nd turn - Island
Counter
Lalalalalala
Continue to counter things in a most annoying fashion until I have 7 mana of Blue and Green.
Then I play Temporal Adept.
Then I counter things.
Then once Adept loses summoning sickness, every spell faces the infamous Mystic Snake/Temporal Adept combo.
Don't play a spell? Put a land back in your hand!
NE1 got a 4t Mystic Snake?
Ahhh...when countering was a little expected concept...back when most people built decks almost exlusively to play a big Shivan or Force of Nature...only to have it snuffed away by the "two blue".
And to then cast an "interrupt" (huh?) to try to counter it...or something like that.
I remember a nerdy (believe me...out the box..."throwed off" nerdy) friend of mine who played a white weenie deck all the time with serras in it. When he'd cast the serras we would all kind of hum this "angelic" sounding couple of notes as kind of their entrance theme music. He was a nerd from God only knows where, but that always got a smile from us...and I guess in that moment he was cool...no longer a nerd.
But that moment passed really quick!
Andy T.---reprint duals---
Also, there was a gaming store in Hammond, LA where we all kind of learned how to play (Aurhaven...out of business). It became the custom of the store that when you where done with your turn you would knock twice on the table to let us all know...we played a lot of big multi-player games then.
Now, even my in-laws knock twice on the table when they're done with their turns playing any other games...it just kind of caught on...
Andy T.--reprint duals--
I used to get mad when someone countered/killed cards I liked. I remember a funny t2 Pattern/Piper deck I used to play and Thran Golem was my favorite creature in it, so he would always get killed.
Of course, my revenge usually involved a Thorn Elemental...
@ Andy - Knock on the table when a turn is over? Isn't that from the "Star Trek" ccg?
If I have a rare once in my deck (IE Necro) and I'm really proud to have it I concede as soon as somebody destroys or counters it...
Green Knight, I saw players doing this waaay before Star Trek. Like when there were Big Type I tournaments.
As far as I know, it dates back to card games using the standard poker deck like Rummy.
I don't know about anything else, other than around '93 or '94, when the game started, we just started doing it in our multiplayer games and it became a store custom in all games played...
Maybe it is something someone brought over from something else, but that's where I first heard of it.
Oh, well. Store's gone, I've moved, and MTG is bland now anyway...
Sure would be nice if WoTC would remember that the P9 is what really got the game going and not treated it like it's a cronic illness...
Andy T.--reprint duals--
Maybe from Bridge?
Maybe. I don't know one thign about BRidge, so meh.
Uno ?
Uno? Nah. If someone plays a card, he´s finished!?
No blind guessing please. We are off-topic enough now
BTW, on my copy of Uno is written "The most successful card game in the world" ...