Oh, and I still think that OSE is better than Legend Blue/XL-Blue/Karl Marx Blue/Stalin Blue/Necroblue will ever be, so nyaaaaaaah.
(WARNING: The following is based on a true story. Parental guidance is advised. The names of the children in the matchups below while the BD control players played each other have been changed for their protection. Kindly await the next installment... when Jesse Pinchot and Yan "Multiple Personality Disorder" Margolin actually play each other IRL.)
And now, the story of how the magnificent Legend (myself) subdued and crushed all who dared stand against him, Negator, and our greatness. This is the story of Sunday's smashing victory, that can now leave no doubt over who the victors are, and who the defeated are.
"Kneel broken and prostrate before me; yeh, Legend conquers all." Legend 6:0:2
Well, my unwashed subjects, I was unfortunately lured to the royal quarters last night by a seductress before I could write my divine tournament report.
How barbaric-my first two posts were erased. Perhaps you were not enjoying my post-game festivities? Truly pathetic. Not surprising behavior, though, from you peasants. After my victory, there is really nothing you can say to me, so you have resorted to deleting posts and hiding in elevators. Don't make it any more painful than it has to be, as it is, the worst possible thing that could have happened to you at the tournament already did happen. I won, you didn't.
Anyway, I hope you are enjoying the celebration. The party will continue today, with a reception afterwards right here at my castle, where other gods and aristocrats will be making appearances.
The popcorn is free, so are the women, enjoy them both. The bathroom is three doors down to the left. And oh, don't open that door two doors down on the right, let's just say that Gordon (my pet Siberian Tiger) hasn't been fed in a while.
Also, there will be a movie shown in about an hour, which I believe is entitled, "Little Azhrei Goes to the Big City." Starring Dennis Hopper as a Magic Player who thinks he is great, but then travels to a big city where he finds out that he is only good enough to go 2-2 drop. Also starring Gene Hackman as UR Mage, the little boy who tries to beat Negator's sligh deck, but accidentally sideboards in Null Rods WHILE he has cursed scrolls still in his deck. Sure to win academy awards, and sure to warm the hearts of team iron hat members everywhere.
Now, with those business matters out of the way,
it is time for the actual tournament report.
TOURNAMENT REPORT, PART 1
The morning of July 29:
I awoke to find numerous servants already prepared to bathe me. After enjoying a bath in fine oils and exotic perfumes, I was relaxed. At this point, I had turned my attention to domination of the Vintage tournament.
Meanwhile, my Legend Blue deck (the original and still the best) was enjoying sexual favors courtesy of my deck mistress Jrasila, the Rubber.
At this point, my deck was relaxed, and it was good.
I now was enjoying a grape-eating session, sucking on the finest Turkish grapes, imported from Romania, courtesy of my 9 best grape-dangling she-servants. I love these grapes, they are large, round, and quite succulent. We ran out of grapes, though, so I was forced to suck on other large, round things. Ah, the pleasures of infancy.
I then sat down to eat breakfast with my 4 Morphlings, you always get to sit with me if they want. I began discussing strategy with them, and they decided that it would be best if I didn't lose any matches at the tournament. So I agreed
with them, and then it was good. Sometimes it gets annoying when they keep changing their power and toughness during breakfast, it is even ruder than chewing with your mouth open. But what am I going to say to them? I can't stay mad at those guys!
Finally, I met up with Negator, who had departed from his castle with a caravan of servants. We briefly discussed how good it was to live in a castle, then left the comfort of our manors to ride on the vehicle of the peasants, the train. I had my servants secure a private car for us. Soon, however, we got bored, so I ordered some of the female servants to roll around on the floor in ways that pleased me. Meanwhile, Negator was enjoying his pre-tournament banquet, consisting of venison seasoned in a lightly crusted pepper glaze, oak-grilled trout in a finely basted garlic puree, and roast duck cooked in a delightful peanut sauce, with exotic parsleys as garnish.
Finally, after an enjoyable ride, we arrived at the citadel of Magic. Upon our entrance into Neutral Ground, many witnesses reported seeing a blinding light, as if to signal the arrival of beings greater than themselves.
Soon, the tournament would start, and all who dared stand againt us would be crushed into mere dust.
Now, here is my decklist:
WARNING: DECKLIST NOT AVAILABLE
Well, my unfortunate creations, you have proven just how irresponsible you can be with decklists, so I am going to have to deprive you of that luxury.
Maybe if you behave, you can see a REAL, TOURNAMENT WINNING decklist. You might actually get to see a deck that won a real tournament. Actually, no. You'll never see it! Ha!
The tournament report, with match reports and my own observations, continues in the next post. So, if this rather long account of the pre-tournament events isn't your cup of soda, read on to hear about the matches.
Edward A. Paltzik
AKA Legend
Father of Legend Blue, and XL-Mono Blue in Type I
Owner of numerous castles and horses
Master of all he surveys
also Yan Margolin, AKA Negator, sends his warmest regards. You'll hear from him at some point, but at the moment he is currently occupied with the trivial matter of making yet another top 8. Yawn.
I'm kind of getting a kick out of it, actually. I maintain that quietly feeling superior is much more satisfying.
Oh, and I still think that OSE is better than Legend Blue/XL-Blue/Karl Marx Blue/Stalin Blue/Necroblue will ever be, so nyaaaaaaah.
Damn, rakso did my Monty Python post make it up and get deleted, or did it fail? the site stopped working around 1:15 EST last night (this morning?) and it was just going through.
-Liam
What do you mean "another top 8"? He apparently can't do it in Neutral Ground.
As I have said, he shames the card from which his name is derived.
Legend... Negator... I really don't care who it was the arrogant brat that posted that report.
To whomever this might have been, here's an advice: next time do remember to post your reports in the casual... or perhaps the rumor mill.
Your report is too comical to be in here, so it should be put into one of these mills, where it'll surely be fully apreciated as it should be.
LOL
and Legator, us being the unwashed, illiterate (but typing) masses makes you, what was the word, the neanderthals' swabbie.
-Liam
as i wrote yesterday:
get the strait-jackets and a physician- the gentlemen (negator and legend) want to leave now.
btw how do you baste a puree?
-Liam
ROFLMAO! - please don't delete this Rakso, it is excellent
Big Blue is right, this is actually really funny!!!
You guys DON'T want these deleted?
Only if you promise only to post witty spam.
The people who just keep calling Legend an arrogant whelp are going to be labeled uncreative boors. Okay?
Jesus, Legend. Would you shut the f*ck up? You played against kiddies all day. I'm a bit surprised you didn't have to correct them calling lands, "energies". What's up with this headstrong, rude shit lately? I'm breaking up with you......
I just have 3 questions:
1) Who the hell beats a bunch of kids (and evades the BD Keeper players in the pairings) with EIGHT BLUE ELEMENTAL BLASTS???
2) Why do you refer to everyone but Negator as the great unwashed?
3) Why the hell am I getting tons of e-mail from Phyrexian regulars about this???
Legend = Panty-waste.
I hope that was creative enough.
Nope.
Not witty enough.
Name-calling is boring.
Remember, we're all talking here and ignoring Legend, and having laughs at their expense.
Raskal took away Legend's (), so he was forced to post sans them. One mroe thing: Edward and I actually ARE royalty. Whereas you are simple American bred peasants, we both come from well mannered, well educated backgrounds. We are the cream of the crop. You, no more than weeds.
8 Blasts were because we knew what the kids were bringing. All of Ed's opponents were serious, for 12 year olds. And i play URine mage, and team iron hat did what they said they would: bent over and take up the ass.
PS: OSE is an awful deck, and Azhereahgs is absolutlely awful. You sicken me, peasant. You didn't back your claims. How could you not be paired against me you would've conceded first breath?
Right... I took away Legend's and Nukaramento's ()s at the same time because they were flaming in public.
Another admission that you are one and the same?
Anyway, we bow before the royalty. Baste a puree was it? Lol.
Funny talking about royalty in New York, though. The royalty that was overthrown by a bunch of "simple American bred peasants" in the 1700s, or the nonexistent kind?
They looked like a couple of queens to me....
Are we going to get the second part of the report any time soon? I'd like to see what he got paired with. I'd actually like to read anyone's reports.
Yeah, enough of this BDominia vs. Negator & Legend catfight.
Let's see the damn report already.
I though this idiot (I mean Legend, of course) was banned from posting here?
Yea Well someone has to say this, LEGEND How many matches were won as a result of rules lawyering, lying or complaining like a three year old girl. You cheated and lied and used your opponents fatigue as a guise to abuse them. GROW UP you are not what type 1 needs right now, there are plenty of jerks on the Pro Tour.
No, he was not banned, he vanished on his polished Warhorse during a tournament held by the King of Uberwald because he was distressed that he had to kill his companion, the Black Knight who fought in the disguise of a Phyrexian Negator, during the tourneys first round.
I quote Legend's official statement:
"We resign from the tournament and BDominia as of now.
Additionaly, all of my own communications and interactions with BDominia, and computer
Magic in general, are terminated as of now. All contact is to be severed forever."
It seems that truth is a doughter of time or vanity stronger than consistency.
Anyway, I am looking forward to your tourney reports (all of you - its nice to see reports from different points of view).
Man, this is like a role-playing trip
Dude, this report FAR exceeded my expectations and I swear that that isn't sarcasm.
Oh, and who plays me in the movie? And the villain is played by Christopher Walken, right?
Actually, I do some genealogy. As opposed to being a simple American-bred peasant, I'm descended from two lines of knighthood: the Peytons and the Miners. Then again, another line comes from a bunch of illiterate rum-runners from the backhills of Tennessee, so I guess it evens out.
Knighthood? Blood is not honor. Knowledge is honor. Your knights were as much rednecks as your rum-runners.
>>>Oh, and who plays me in the movie? And the villain is played by Christopher Walken, right?
Oh, that WAS sharp!
I want to be played by Julian Sands. I'm not blonde or English, by I don't care.
--Matt
Quote:LEGEND TELLS ALL---THE Actual Tournament Report With Match Reports NG Vintage Grinder *1st Place* Undefeated
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Beyond Dominia: The Type One Magic Mill: LEGEND TELLS ALL---THE Actual Tournament Report With Match Reports NG Vintage Grinder *1st Place* Undefeated
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By Legend on Monday, July 30, 2001 - 06:48 pm:
Finally, what you have all been waiting for.
But first, you must know that it is not too late to swear allegiance to me. Beware the consequences of disobedience. I will not tolerate dissension.
Anyway, after my glorious entrance had awed all the patrons of Neutral Ground, it was time for the tournament.
Tournament Size: 26 People, Cut to top 8
Primary Decks: Keeper, Sligh, Suicide Black, Nether Void, Old School Excretion
Best Deck: My Deck
Best Players: Legend and Negator
My Deck: Legend Blue, the original and only true Mono-Blue deck
Decklist: No
1st Place: Yes
What I was playing for: Prizes, Ratings Point, Prizes, Ratings Points, and Prizes.
What happened: I won and Azhrei tried to hide in an elevator, running away like a whipped servant
ROUND 1: EVAN ROUGE PLAYING NETHER VOID
Game 1: A Phyrexian Negator attacks me 4 times.
Game 2: A 2nd turn Morphling.
Game 3: A 3rd turn Morphling. A 4th turn Morphling. A 5th turn Misdirected Diabolic Edict.
1-0, 2-1
ROUND 2: WILL MURRAY PLAYING TURBOLAND WITH COUNTERS AND SIDEBOARD OATH ENGINE
Game 1: He takes many turns.
Game 2: I counter everything, then he fights back, but then I counter everything.
Game 3: I counter everything, then he fights back, but then I counter everything.
2-0, 4-2
ROUND 3: DEVON DELGADO PLAYING SUICIDE BLACK
Game 1: His Necropotence and full hand are no match for a Morphling.
Game 2: I am swarmed by Carnophages.
Game 3: I deal with him in the way I know best.
3-0, 6-3
ROUND 4: JOHN MURPHY PLAYING SUICIDE BLACK
Intentional Draw
3-0-1, 6-3
ROUND 5: CHRIS BRELLOCHS PLAYING MONO-BLUE
Intentional Draw
3-0-2, 6-3
I have 11 Points. I am the 4th seed in the Top 8.
This is the top 8:
1. David Kaplan (Sligh) 4-0-1 13 Points
2. John Murphy (Suicide Black) 3-0-2 11 Points
3. Chris Brellochs (Draw-Go) 3-0-2 11 Points
4. Me(Legend Blue) 3-0-2 11 Points
5. Vincent Pau(Keeper) 3-1-1 10 Points
6. Christian Grim (Keeper) 3-1-1 10 Points
7. Steven Sadin (Keeper) 3-1-1 10 Points
8. Matt J D'Avanzo (Keeper) 3-1-1 10 Points
ROUND 6: VINCENT PAU PLAYING KEEPER
Game 1: For some mysterious reason, none of his lands untap.
Game 2: His lands are unable to produce mana.
4-0-2, 8-3
ROUND 7: DAVID KAPLAN PLAYING SLIGH
Game 1: He has direct damage, and he uses it on me.
Game 2: I won, so since he was my opponent, he lost.
Game 3: I deal with him in the way I know best.
5-0-2, 10-4
ROUND 8 (THE FINALS): JOHN MURPHY PLAYING SUICIDE BLACK
Game 1: I counter everything. Then I cast three Morphlings. They're bigger than anything he's got.
Game 2: I Counter and Misdirect stuff. Then I deal with him in the way I know best.
6-0-2, 12-4
UNDEFEATED
I Win: An Invitation to the Grudge Match Tournament, Some Packs of Invasion Block, and a victory in the biggest Type I tournament at NG in a long time.
Observations:
EDWARD A. PALTZIK AKA LEGEND: Clearly, the best player in the world right now. Watch out, James Wisniewski, Legend is coming to get you, and is closing quickly on your 2055 rating.
Personality: God-Like
YAN MARGOLIN AKA NEGATOR: A spectacular player who finished 9th in this tournamen. He is a great friend and has dominated Magic for a long time.
Personality: God-like
EVAN ROUGE: His deck had Rishadan Ports which caused me problems in the 1st Game. They were tapping my 5th Island, so by the time I drew my 6th Island, I was at 5, so my Morphling wasn't large enough to stand up to the Phyrexian Negator. He also had Kegs, one of which took out a Mox Pearl and Black Lotus in the 1st game. But in the end, his deck was no match for my buzz-saw of a deck. He was hurt by the fact that I drew Ancestral Recall and Black Lotus repeatedly.
Personality: Quiet and humble, yet somewhat pleasant.
WILL MURRAY: Will had the potential to cause me problems. Well, actually, not really. First game, he actually outcountered me, and then was able to take infinite turns. But being the #1 Type I player in the World, I was of course able to overwhelm him in the next two games. His Oath transformational sideboard did very little. In the third game, he took out the Oaths, but I was able to counter all the right things.
Personality: Very nice guy, easy going, I was hoping he would do well in his other matches. It is always good to have opponents like Will.
DEVON DELGADO: He was atrocious. He made an assortment of playing errors, such as forgetting to attack with a Skittering Skirge, then bringing out a Phyrexian Negator. He also brought out a 2nd Carnophage while I had a Keg set at 1.
VINCENT PAU: Vince just couldn't handle Back to Basics, as so many Keeper players have found out before him. He actually was able to outdraw me using the Library of Alex by about 5 cards during Game 1, but it doesn't matter, because Back to Basics is an overwhelming card. That game finally ended when I Misdirected a Mind Twist at him, although it was completely irrelevant, considering that I had 3 counters and another Back to Basics in my hand. He made a bad mistake in Game 2. He cast Aura Fracture, and I Mana Drained. I then Force of Willed, but in response he Red Elemental Blasted my Force of Will, allowing me to Misdirect the Red Blast at the Misdirection. If he had waited, and used the Red Blast on the Back to Basics, he would have been able to remove the Back to Basics, although he still would have lost his Aura Fracture.
Personality: Nervous, very stressed out.
DAVE KAPLAN: He is a big jerk. He tried to rules lawyer, but he got what he deserved. I Elemental Blasted him into submission, and in the third game, he was force to sac both his mountains to fireblast a Morphling, which I made untargetable using my one available Island. Then, he had to Urza's Rage it using the two mana from those mountains that was floating plus 1 Wasteland mana. Left with only 2 Wastelands and no cards in his hand, and me still at 17, he got steamrolled by another Morphling.
Personality: This guy is a rotten little kid, I think beating him was quite enjoyable. He is like a rotten apple with worms crawling out of it.
JOHN MURPHY: This guy is a great opponent. Between me and him, there were more dry remarks made than in any match I've ever seen before. His suicide black deck featured Cursed Scrolls, Zombies, Shadow Creatures, Hippies, and Handkill, along with Sinkholes. Congratulations to him on being a great sport, having a sense of humor, and making it to the finals by really beating some people badly. His match with Steven Sadin in the top 8 (Suicide Black vs. Keeper) lasted about 5 minutes. While me an Vince were still shuffling before Game 1, their match had already ended. I would describe his performance in this tournament as dominant, and of course was second only to mine. Good job, John.
Personality: Dry, which is why we mixed so well, because we are both so dry. Smiles a lot, very nice. The ideal opponent. Congratulations, John.
CHRIS BRELLOCHS: We didn't actually play, but he is also a nice guy and a good sport.
Personality: Good, easy-going.
Now, onto a few other people.
DARREN DI BATTISTA AKA AZHERIA: You talk the talk, but you don't walk the walk. Your Old School Excretion deck is awful, your Sligh deck is awful, and you are simply the most overrated, overhyped, person I have ever seen. It was hilarious and immensely satisfying to watch you run for the safety of the elevator. How do people like this get in a position where they can poison the minds of other players by having a regular column on Star City?
You showed a total lack of class, lack of balls, and lack of skill. Your road trip was a disaster.
You talk about how wonderful your decks are, but there is no evidence to support this. 2-2 Drop? Sure, many people have had bad tournaments, but considering the circumstances, you were obligated to do better.Disgraceful.
Personality: A Big Old Windbag.
JESSE PINCHOT AKA URine MAge
As Negator has told me, you played awfully in you match. You attacked with a Goblin Cadet into a Mogg Fanatic. You sided in Null Rods, while keeping in both Cursed Scrolls and Hull Breaches. You also talk way too much for someone of your abilities. Embarassing. By the way, what do you think of Price of Progress now? I heard you were so scared of it, that you were holding lands in your hand.
Personality: None of which to speak of
MATT D'AVANZO: Look, you are a great player, and you are a good opponent. Good job on top 8.
JP MEYER: Dissapointing how you sided with the enemy.
ERIC WILKINSON: You are a great player also. You are the only person to have beaten me in the last four tournaments. Congratulations. Don't listen to Dave Kaplan, he is a cheater, Negator was just trying to protect you.
MATT BOCCIO: Excellent player, 2-3 in this tournament, but not too bad for a non type I player.
Quote:By Azhrei (Azhrei) on Monday, July 30, 2001 - 07:48 pm:
Legend, I have to thank you. As I was leaving to make my train home, after a full nine hours of being there, I turn around to see this tiny little guy coming sprinting around the corner all hunched over (if you've ever seen an uncoordinated guy run you'll know what I mean) to say "Azhrei, don't mess with Legend!" before prancing back into the store. I damn near fell over laughing. I was just waiting for Negator to drop to one knee and shout "Hop on, lifetime companion!" and cue their theme music. It was great. That was such a good laugh. My only regret is that we never got a chance to play. Rib me all you want, I really don't care. From the looks of you two guys, you need this more than I ever could.
As for myself, I admit I did poorly, but whatever. It'd been about 4 months since I played a real game and I was rusty as hell and it didn't pay off for me. Long story short, I wasn't playing well and I decided that food was better than Magic so I dropped and ate. It was actually more fun for me that way, since I was able to meet more people and get in more games than the people still in did.
It was great to finally see so many BDers in the flesh! Hopefully JP will have pictures ready soon. I had a really fun time. All the BDers there were real class acts.
Quote:By The Maxx,. the Guru of Foolishness (Maxx) on Monday, July 30, 2001 - 09:58 pm:
Where the hell did that guy come from?
And Whoopie Legend. It's such a shocker that a Blue deck with B2B beat a field half full ok Keeper.
The Maxx
Quote:By Cooberp (Cooberp) on Monday, July 30, 2001 - 10:09 pm:
Legend -- no shoutout for the man responsible for Aura Fracture, who lost to a 12-year-old's Oppression deck when he Regrew a Stroke instead of an Ivory Mask? I'm disappointed. Nice job, though, although I attribute your victory to the stunning purple tie rather than your mastery of the Island-Mox-Mox-B2B draw. See you next Sunday.
Quote:By Legend on Monday, July 30, 2001 - 11:27 pm:
The Maxx:
You have actually just revealed why you are awful
"It's such a shocker that a Blue deck with B2B beat a field half full ok Keeper."
You are so stupid I can't even believe it. First of all, have you ever heard of the term 'metagame?' You fool, the whole point of a Magic tournament is to make the deck that will do the best IN THAT SPECIFIC TOURNAMENT!! Secondly, I only played ONE, ONE, YES ONE Keeper deck the entire day. What does that mean? That means that despite having my maindeck pre-sideboarded against keeper, I STILL managed to win against not only a Nether Void Deck and a Sligh Deck, but TWO, NOT ONE, BUT TWO Suicide Black Decks. Not to mention a Turboland deck that was completely immune to Back to Basics.
Now, you large man, you what does this tell us?
Really it tells us a number of things.
1. I HAVE THE BEST DECK IN THE WORLD---how do we know this? Well, this deck is so good, that it can be metagamed to beat keeper, and still smash beatdown decks. 5 out of the 6 matches I played (not counting the two ID's) were NON-KEEPER decks.
2. Where were all the keepers at the end? They had lost. That's where they were
3. Explain away my victory all you want, because you're heros have been routed and have fled, and I have won the tournament.
In Magic, it is not about how you won, or what the field was relative to your deck, it just matters whether or not you won. AND I WON.
Azhreiay: We were just wondering if you're invocation of having not played in a while is an excuse or merely an explanation? Because if it is an excuse, that makes your fall from grace all the more shameful.
Want to talk about odd couples? Look at you and URine Mage, that disgusting, unshaven, repulsive toad, who demonstrated that he possessed neither in-game skill nor deckbuilding intuition.
AND TO ALL OF YOU, MAKE ALL THE EXCUSES, EXPLANATIONS, ETC, you want.
We dominated, we have the win, and best of all you were there to see it.
Plus, who's got the Grudge Match invitation in addition to the first place, and the avalanche of ratings points for Vintage.
Hey Azhrei, one more thing. You say things like 'I don't care', 'I'd rather eat.'
Well, these are the lamentations of a loser.
Why would you travel so far, and devote so much time to the game, including an article on Star City? The answer is, is that you care.
Admit it, it is just eating away at you that things turned out the way they did.
Quote:By Sssmwc (Sssmwc) on Monday, July 30, 2001 - 11:58 pm:
Would you please shut the hell up? Winning a tournament is a lot of fun, but gloating about it like a 16 year old virgin who just got to play stink finger for the first time with the high school slut is completely classless and a waste of bandwidth that could be used with much more prudent material...like making fun of your repeated attempts to bolster your ego by degrading others. URine mage? please some creativity if you will.
Sorry for the flame on this guy Rakso but if anyone deserved to have a friggin flamethrower turned on his ass, its Legend. Please ban him already and let the board turn back into the civil place it usually is.
"You will never know the bliss of bombs"
Quote:By Negator on Tuesday, July 31, 2001 - 12:06 am:
snsmeores, you clearly have no idea what this is about. This is about month's of gloating by ASShair, and his awful friends shoved straight up their colon. This is also about Parrot and Acolytec, who now fade in comparison with teir copied, outdated decks, and meager accomplishements. Ti's also about idiots like you getting angry about that which you can't understand.
Quote:By Sssmwc (Sssmwc) on Tuesday, July 31, 2001 - 12:51 am:
From what I've read its about 2 socially clueless gamers trying to bolster their egos based upon a good showing in a tournment against the people who have ridiculed them (and for good reason based upon this nonsense).
From Rakso's personal e-mail...
This was from a friend who's a Pro player based in Neutral Ground...
Quote:----- Original Message -----
From: *****
To: i***o@o***o.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:21 AM
Subject: Re: [jokulgoblin] Digest Number 33
Oscar,
Ok I admit to not being completely up on names and what not but Ive never
seen or heard of either of these guys. I did talk to several friends of mine
friday about this so called Legend. **** and **** have been the type1 mavens
at NG forever. (Not counting Mike P and Alex S.) They both said some pretty
uncomplimentary things about this fellow. Apparently hes only won 2 out of 5
tournaments hes been in total. Hes only played in 5 tournaments so where does
the legend come from? Purely from his head I guess. Its the tactic of the BIG
LIE. Tell it often enough and loud enough and some people will believe it.
Propaganda 101. The funny thing is I have been known to make boasts of a
similar nature in defense of Neutral Ground because it is true that we are
home to some of the best players in the world. This doesnt mean we cant be
beat. I dont know how the Sunday Type 1 Grinders went but **** and **** were
busy testing against Mono Blue on Friday when I left. The bad version
according to them because the fool uses no Impulses, LOA or Wastelands. Well
thats all I have for now.
*****
From Rakso's personal e-mail
Dave Kaplan's tourney report
Quote:----- Original Message -----
From: *****
To: <i***o@o***o.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:24 AM
Subject: [jokulgoblin] The Legend of "Legend"
> >From Dave Kaplan's report at NGO today July 30, 2001 about the Grudge Match
> T1 Qualifier:
>
> Top 4: Ed (Mono Blue) aka Legend (I played him in the finals of t1 last
>
> week losing a narrow 2-1 and he gave me credit anyway.)
>
> Game 1: I get an aggro start and deny him artifact mana.
>
> Game 2: I stumble with 1 land.
>
> Game 3: I get a good start but he kegs and hydros. He's at 17 on turn 6.
>
> He has 1 mana from mana drain floating. He drops a mox jet with hand on
>
> it and takes it back. Than he says "go" motions with his hands and than
>
> says "I eat the mana" and I adjust his life total to 16. I am about to
>
> draw my card when he drops the mox jet and the morphling declaring he
>
> was "thinking aloud and he wasn't done". I am outraged at this and we
>
> argue and he curses and has a hissy fit and was practically in tears. He
>
> tormented his last round opponent for Red elemental blasting a FoW
>
> instead of the Back to Basics when his opponent clearly meant to destroy
>
> the Back to basics. Steve the judge said it was my word against his and
>
> he always goes with the person who has the decision to make, Steve isn't
>
> unfair as he always rules this way, but this time I got the short end.
>
> So Ed got to drop the morphling and I had to fireblast/ urza's rage it
>
> when I could have saved them. I drew 2 ball lightnings which would have
>
> won me the game. Had Ed been truthful to Steve. To top it off Ed
>
> mentioned that he doesn't care about the slot, only winning. He's
>
> obsessed with winning. You might want to read his fantasy land report at
>
> www.bdominia.com under T1. I would have played and smashed a mono black
>
> deck in the finals, but what can you do.
From Rakso's personal e-mail
From a friend who is a Pro player and plays Type I at Neutral Ground
Quote:----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Shvartsman
To: Oscar Tan
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: "New" Type I Deck at Neutral Ground?
Dear Oscar
His name doesn't ring a bell at all
Alex
At 05:48 PM 7/30/2001 +0800, you wrote:
Okay, someone's seriously been spamming Beyond Dominia. Does anyone know this guy, from the Neutral Grounders?
Oscar
Did I miss anything so far?
Rakso (and all others), when will you stop posting things like that? If the guy irritates you, just e-mail him. By replying to his claims in public, you just do exactly what he wants you to do : talk about him.
Things you all need to know
A: Kaplan was yelled at by steve multiple time for ridiculous rules lawyering. Steve, with whom i get along vewry well, pulled me aside to ak me what happened. Ed never passed anything. Kaplan was trying to bend reality to his whims.
b: Ed won 2 sunday T1, and this, so its 3.
c:I could not care less about what *** and ***, probably matt and eric, think. We came, we say, and we conqured. BTW, Eric showed some real bad mood swings when the following occured. Kaplan Urzas rages. Eric mana drains. Kaplan says eric gets no mana. Eric says he does. i know Kaplan is lieing, so i get a judge. The judge says to bring him a english mana drain. i ask eric for it, and he tells me he wont give a me a card to go ten steps with in order to help him out. Not right.
PS: I may look down upon you all, but at NG, I am a well liked player, and get along with most of the patrons. They, unlike you, are real players, and real people.
Quote:PS: I may look down upon you all, but at NG, I am a well liked player, and get along with most of the patrons. They, unlike you, are real players, and real people.
Aww man...I had a really long post I was about to put up on the "tournament report" post, and it must have been taken down right as I was writing. When I actually tried the post the thing, it said the thread was gone.
Its too long to re-write, but basically it amounts to me saying Legend disgusts me with her childish arrogance.
Nobody cares how good she says her deck is, and her relentless posting of these ridiculous rants is nothing more than a waste of time for everyone involved.
That said, it sure is funny to see this brainless idiot try to make herself feel big and important.
Keep posting Legend! I sure as hell won't respect your childish ignorance, but I promise I will laugh at every word you write.
Legend you are a complete horses behind. My point was that while you claim to be a superior player, you just had a deck geared for the field. I have not heard one positive thing about your play ability yet. The deck is good. Notice the absense of the word "your" in the last sentence.
And what is all this We garbage? do you have a mouse in your pants? Negator did nothing. He failed to make top 8. Everyone who does that lost.
The Maxx
quote: "The bad version
according to them because the fool uses no Impulses, LOA or Wastelands." - see guys? I mean, we all agree on LoA and Wastelands (except for Legend), but IMPULSES! Yes! My words...
(To Parrot: And he didn't mention Merchant Scroll :p)
Negator--
Whatever uncomplimentary things I've said about Legend and his deck are things I've said in public to him or directly in response to his posts. He ought to know by my outwardly expressed attitudes exactly where I stand. If not:
I think LegendBlue is a ridiculous pile of basic islands and counters. Unfortunetly for me it works well in this envirionment/format. If I don't complain more loudly about it to him, it is because I've already heard him out, he's heard me out and we agree to disagree. If a basketball player tossed the ball underhanded from the three point line, but got them in 45% of the time time would his coach yell at him?
At the time you claimed Legend Blue was dominating NG he had won 2 of 5 tourneys. I thought this was a ridiculous misrepresentation. Talk to me a year from now. If Legend is still a regular type I-er I'll be happy to tell everyone if he's dominating, holding his own, or crapping out. I said before, straight out, he is inexperienced. Simply put, Legend is Stephan Marbury. I'm John Stockton. Mikey P. is freakin' Jerry West or Dr. J.
I wasn't trying to take away from Legend's 2 (now 3) wins, I just like to set records straight. Just like the way you say "I am well-liked and get along with most of the patrons". Shi-it. you're the only person I've ever seen mild-mannered Mikey P. yell at ("Would you please go stand [points] over there!"). Truth is you're loud for no reason and tend to disrupt people's concentration. If your friend ever switches to 5-color control he's going to start telling you "Stand over there!" as you yabber away in his ear while he's trying to figure out what he should Demonic Tutor for. Look, I know you _aren't_ a bad person and often try to do nice things (like trying to lend Eric a hand, that was really nice, you didn't have to do that--good looking out). The outward persona you created for yourself just blinds a lot of people to that fact though.
I thought Ed was a big prick before I met him in RL, where he is actually quite pleaseant, polite, and open to civil discussion. I'm suprised to say he is really one of the more pleasant people to play against at NG. I enjoyed our two matches together and look foward to try and break the 1-1 standings in my favor.
The two of you, have ridiculous online personas that are vastly different than your actual
selves. Legend walks back with his collected prizes and I say congrats (hey, like I said it's a g-a-m-e), he flashed an honest smiles and quietly says thankyou--you can actually see the genuine, serene happiness on his face. No bragging, no WWF-esque BS.
Why you choose to make yourselves disliked is a mystery to me. It could be as simple as two kids having silly fun with people online (hey, it's not like they can smack you up the side of your head so you can go nuts) or some deep-rooted psychological issues. Unfortunetely I majored in English and not Psychology so I could give a damn about people's unconscious motives unless they are fictional characters.
Eric _does_ have a temper. If the worst you ever catch of it is he says, "No." count yourself among the lucky.
--Matt
Indeed... who are we really laughing at, then? Legend or Negator? Or do we need to tell from the IPs?
jeez, all you guys are wimps! I mean you're all being moderated by a short-fat-DOWNRIGHT-UGLY nerd with totally no social life besides the internet-->right OSCAR TAN(high school nerd, chubby freckled face with yellow blocks protruding from his mouth->lousy excuse for teeth toting a BIG notebook around to cover the constant erection he gets from staring at goodlooking men)? for more vivid details, try joining the dci-philippines egroups. 99% of magic players from the philippines hates him, the other one percent simply doesn't know he exist. he talks real loud in an attemp to be witty. you got it all right, the bitch on the net is the big L(loser) in real life. oh, BTW oscar, buth 'roadwarrior' maniego likes you because you're a brown nosed(actually, your nose is so flat, there isn't much to talk about) ass licker-->quoting mr maniego.
have a nice day.
Nick Ortega
a***n@l***a.com
very rich man(what can i say, i 'just' live in SAn LORENZO Village MAkati City), most talented magic player in the Philippines
LONG LIVE ROYALTY!
PS -- Why do I hate Oscar Tan so much?
Quote:----- Original Message -----
From: <a***n@l***a.com>
To: <e***d@a***p.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 8:28 PM
> Out of sheer morbid curiosity I checked the DCI Limited ratings of
> some of the guys I remember beating sa PT.
>
>
>
> Kyle Rose - 2093
> Pete Leiher - 2043
> Bob Maher, Jr. - 2033
> Bryan Hubble - 2002
>
>
>
> Wow. Holy geez. Richie Chua, take your dream, shine it up real nice,
> and shove it in the toilet. I don't think I'm going to bother playing
> Limited back home for quite a long while, thank you very much. All
> you people na super-obsessed sa DCI rating, umiyak nalang kayo. Hindi
> ako magpapatama sa Limited until maybe Regionals. It's time for The
> Real Great One to turn his attention to Constructed and with my new
> managers (C.E., D.M. and B.K.) I think I'll just wreck your
> Constructed rating dreams too.....bwahahahaha........
>
>
>
> Nick O
Quote:----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Ellis"
To: "Oscar Tan"
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [dci] (unknown)
> Oscar,
>
> I'm confused as to where my name came up in all this (I don't see it in
the
> post you forwarded to me, unless the C.E. is supposed to mean me) but as
far
> as I know I've never met Nick.
>
> Chad
Quote:----- Original Message -----
From: <a***n@l***a.com>
To: <e***d@a***p.com>
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 7:03 AM
Subject: [dci] long (try to skip the first part please)
> Oscar, it amuses, irritates and vindicates me somewhat to know how
> much of a 'no-life' you have that you would gleefully stay up until
> God knows what time in order to attempt to embarass me YET AGAIN in
> front of the eGroups community. For God's sake,are you that stupid,
> shallow and spiteful? As anyone can tell you of course I f***ing know
> Chad Ellis for God's sake he was sitting to the right of me in the
> draft, he was my 8th round opponent and I had several chances to talk
> to him during the PT. I don't blame him for forgetting me if that's
> the case because to him I'm just some random scrub he beat then
> humbly asked if I could correspond with him regarding Constructed
> strategy. He didn't seem like that kind of a guy though. Besides,
> he's no frigging VIP, he's just some American who's good in Magic
> that I think I befriended.
Quote:----- Original Message -----
From: <a***n@l***a.com>
To: <e***d@a***p.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 8:28 PM
Subject: For Oscar Tan
> To everybody else, sorry for posting this on the group site but I
> just had to. It won't happen again
>
> As for you, who the hell do you think you are? What makes you think
> you can say something like that to me? You are just a goddamn
> insignificant gnat. I will say whatever I like when I like within the
> context of the MTG scene because it's just a 'character' I have
> chosen to be. I tolerate and accept comments from Butch et. al.
> because I consider them to be my good friends IRL, "may utang ng loob
> ako sa kanila" and "marami na kaming pinagdaanan". You, on the other
> hand, lack finesse, familiarity and privacy. Everything I say is NOT
> calculated to hurt other peoples' feelings but merely the dialogue
> for the character I choose to play. You think I give a damn about DCI
> rating or anything like that? Putang ina, through collusion bullshit
> and whatnot kayang kaya lampasin yung bagong rating ko e. Don't bring
> me down from a good high, boy. I'll sweep all the goddamn dirt of the
> Pinoy magic scene in a heartbeat and it'll all be your fault. You
> like that, huh? Just learn to not even look at me or talk to me and
> things will be ok. And if 'hindi ka talaga makakatiis' send something
> to MY email account not the group page. Shit, I feel disgusted at
> even wasting my time and energy typing this to you, you are so
> meaningless and worthless IMO.
Lol, and this is the guy who featured in the infamous "What would Nicky do?" or something lmao
Sorry Legend, but I *don't* care. I really don't. A life full of success and disappointment in all things has taught me enough to know that one bad day in a game has no significance whatsoever. I went to NG to meet JP and Matt, and I was lucky enough to see other BDers there. I kept my plans to go when they temporarily cancelled the grinder-- I would have been there without a tournament at all. Magic is a hobby to me, much like fishing. I enjoy doing it, sometimes even if I don't catch anything. I'd rather win, of course, but if I don't there's always the next game and all that matters to me about this weekend is that I had fun. I'm sorry that the same isn't true for you.
Hey Nick, I have a message for you, you little b****. Why don't you use all your money to hop on a plane and fly to the USA so I can plant my shoe four feet up your large intestine. Don't worry, the profuse bleeding will act as a lube when I drag my cleats out sideways so it won't ruin your ability to excrete for more than a week or so. If you're really good I'll shove your head up your ass too so you can give yourself a tongue bath from the inside while we're at it. Then you can visit our local prison and get passed around like 99 bottles of beer on the wall. Get the hell out of here, you slack jawed c***sucker.
Legend mentioned that he lost a game to a kid with ports and negators...and that that same kid managed to keg away his lotus. How the HELL do you lose a LOTUS to a keg. I mean, i may not be the cream of the crop when it comes to type 1, as a matter of fact, i haven't played type 1 in over a year, but i thought that you only cast the LOTUS the turn you're gonna use it. That just might be my play style, but at least i can honestly say i've never lost a lotus to a keg.
Jimbob: Against black, I'd put it on the board because it might just get discarded and it's important if you're looking to play a Morph.
So you want me to kill posting now?
Incidentally, "Nikolai" is Dominic Ortega, a grade school classmate of myself and Richie Chua, a former #1 ranked player of my country and my college classmate.
Yep, that was the same guy in my "What Would Richie Do?" Puzzles.
Nick's smart and can be nice in his own way, but to put a long story short, he's exactly the Yan Margolin of this end of the Pacific. Unfortunately, he and Richie never did get to play each other, much like the hyped Legend vs Azhrei match never came up.
It's deja vu... how people find one another on the Net.
If you're done being sarcastic and all, maybe we can close this thread down. Unless Legend's interested in posting his decklist.
Jeez... the e-mails I got made me think someone had spammed so bad or something... This was it?
Quote:<Negator> HAHA
<nargoT> it doesnt like my connection
<nargoT> gateway stuff...
<Negator> it apperas i have found another vein
<nargoT> i saw u in #wiredraft negator
<Negator> where is ASSheria?
<Negator> or URine Mage?
<Negator> my fued with them goes beyond taht site
<Negator> where are you hiding your fallen Champions?
<brimstone> Hi negator. Up for a game to show that you are inferior?
<nargoT> they were weeping in some corner if i remember correctly
<nargoT> their hero didnt make top 8
<nargoT> they have ben crying for days
<brimstone> URmage doesn't come here and az already left.
<brimstone> So negator, up for a game?
<nargoT> they have looked up to u for so long, then u get 9th
*** brimstone sets mode: +v Negator
<nargoT> their whole world came crashing down
<brimstone> LOL
<Negator> I dont like T1
<Negator> i played a deck taht i did not like too much
<Negator> and i drew R1
<Negator> ID!
<Negator> then, i got screwed
<Negator> and the person i drew with, steve sadin
<nargoT> yeah, but we expect so much of a role model
<Negator> i played in teh side T1 tourney, and smashed 2-0
<nargoT> i guess we shouldnt...
<Negator> LEGEND won
<Negator> he is teh real T1 star
<Negator> I win at everything else
<obithrawn> NEGATOR!!!!!!!1111
<brimstone> Legend is a pathetic and arrogant asshole.
<Negator> i dont play t1 at all, really
<Negator> HAHAH
<brimstone> He has no life.
<Negator> legend is better than you can ever be
<brimstone> I bet I can beat legend.
<Negator> i bet not
<brimstone> Tell him to come here.
<obithrawn> NEGATOR HI ASL????
<Negator> asl?
<Cividel> I'm going to bet that I can beat anyone here at Texas Hold'em
<V|jtd712> cividel ur full of it
<V|jtd712> name a type
<obithrawn> lol civ
<weidert> hahah
<Cividel> Heh
<nargoT> explain to me what it is...
<obithrawn> Civ, how are the cards?
<nargoT> and i might
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<Cividel> One of the reasons why I tend to beat people at hold'em is that I can afford to lose 10,000 on a game and it doesn't bother me
<Cividel> Hard to bluff me
<Negator> have you all read legends glorious tournement report
<brimstone> Yes.
<brimstone> Hysterical.
<V|jtd712> not i
<nargoT> i luved it
<Negator> read of your leaders demise
<obithrawn> yes. it was obviously the work of a genius. one with a very small penis.
<brimstone> Is Dave Kaplan like 14 years old?
<nargoT> azmodan was proud, but not impressed
<Negator> and our demise
<Negator> 15
<Negator> wait
<brimstone> Does he live in LI and go to mark's comics.
<Negator> not demise, i was drafting that, sorry
<brimstone> ?
<Negator> our rise
<brimstone> Does he live in LI and go to mark's comics?
<obithrawn> read of your leaders our rise?
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<obithrawn> hi jelal
<brimstone> Hi jelal.
<jelal> hey
<obithrawn> jelal look who has accompanied us, it starts with 'N' and ends in 'egator'
<jelal> i noticed ;)
<Negator> btw, you guys do understand taht ahzarieys decks are awful
<AMM[-_-]> man
<AMM[-_-]> ripping mp3 is :[
<obithrawn> now that i think about it negator is actaully a really cool word.
<Negator> he talked crap to me beforet eh tourney
<Negator> and i courtesly listened, laughing inwardly
<Negator> then, he crapped out
<nargoT> he owned joo
<brimstone> Negator: Don't at so arrogantly. I have power here.
<obithrawn> negator is english your first language?
<Negator> he siad Ball lightning and price of progress are bad in sligh
<brimstone> *act
<Negator> i am not paying attention to my typing, sorry if i ofend you
<obithrawn> um. in t1 sligh they are.
<brimstone> Negator: They are in type one.
<Negator> ohh really
<obithrawn> no its not your typing but your setnence structer is odd
<brimstone> Yes, really.
<Negator> is that why i lost out in t1 on tiebreakers
<obithrawn> why use PoP when you can use bad moon?
<Negator> i am not paying attention
<Negator> OH MY GOD
<Negator> blood moon
<Negator> cuz you wanna win the game, not stall it out
<obithrawn> NO I MEAN BAD MOON. THE BLACK ONE.
<Negator> thats why
<Negator> URine mage ate price so many times in our match
<Negator> i knew i had teh game when he was on 20
<brimstone> Negator: Don't act like an arrogant know-it-all. I have power here and I won't put up with that kind of childish behavior.
<Negator> ohh boy, its raskal 2
<obithrawn> in t1 sligh its more beneficial to use a waste/strip configuration, which doesn't allow for ball lightning
<Negator> no
<Negator> its not
<brimstone> Yes, it is.
<Negator> that loses to the following:
<obithrawn> you play too much extended
<jelal> ok, brimstone, stop
<jelal> really
<Negator> keeper, suicide, monoblue
*** brimstone sets mode: +o jelal
<brimstone> It beats keeper.
<brimstone> And mono-U should have LoA
<Negator> i did much better than all of the BD pople combined
<obithrawn> yes it beats keeper, and how does sligh lose to suicide?
<Negator> look
<Negator> you all jsut have words
<obithrawn> sligh just plain doesn't lose to suicide
<Negator> NO RESULTS
<obithrawn> um so do you
<Negator> wrong
<Negator> i have beaten sligh with suicidew
<Negator> it is about 3 cards
<Negator> scuta, masticore, spinning
<brimstone> 9th is not the best result possible IMHO.
<obithrawn> you have to show us anything but telling us you have "many t8s" or some BS like that
<obithrawn> *you have yet
<Negator> its better, than Urin, Jp, asshrie and all others combined
<Negator> matt davanzo got 3% higher tie breaks
<brimstone> Negator: What's your real name?
<Negator> Yan Margolin
<Negator> you can see all my top 8 at NG stie
<brimstone> Let's see how good you really are:
<brimstone> Yan Margolin's Record
<brimstone> Grudge Match Week #3 (3/18/2001) not T8 1 point
<brimstone> Grudge Match Week #6 (4/8/2001) not T8 1 point
<brimstone> Grudge Match Week #16 (6/24/2001) T8 3 points
<brimstone> Grudge Match Week #17 (7/1/2001) not T8 1 point
<brimstone> Grudge Match Week #19 (7/15/2001) T8 3 points
<Negator> and tehy wont post my limited grinder T4
<Negator> contructed rating: 1818
<brimstone> It's better then legend's.
<brimstone> Edward Paltzik's Record
<brimstone> Grudge Match Week #6 (4/8/2001) not T8 1 point
<brimstone> Grudge Match Week #18 (7/8/2001) not T8 1 point
<brimstone> Grudge Match Week #19 (7/15/2001) not T8 1 point
<obithrawn> obithrawn rating: 2402
<jelal> Negator: stop with the name-calling
<Negator> those include 2 ninth place, and a 3-3 run
<Negator> tahts a lie
<brimstone> Really?
<Cividel> Ratings Mean Nothing In type 1 *nod*
<Negator> eds qed!
<Cividel> In fact, all ratings really mean is that you play more than other people
<Negator> HAHA
<Negator> taht means yours sucks
<Negator> geez
<Cividel> I judge too often to have a rating Negator
<Negator> you are all so very transparent
<obithrawn> because see, negator, some of us have better things to do than sit and brag about how good we are in magic
<Cividel> I'm the guy that lets people like you have a rating
<Negator> well, i am waiting to draft
<Negator> you brought up my records and name
<Negator> so i backed it up
<Cividel> I didn't
<Cividel> I just say the same thing I always do *shrug*
<obithrawn> I play magic to screw around with my friends not to argue with halfwits
<Negator> no cividel, you just show how much better i a than the average player
<nargoT> if i didnt suck at t1 i might say something in this...
<Cividel> ?
<obithrawn> heh nargo jump right in :/
<Cividel> How?
<obithrawn> I'm probably the worst t1 player in BD
<Negator> thats hard
<Negator> there are ALOT of ppl in contention for tha title
<brimstone> Like?
<Negator> ASShraheiy
<jelal> Negator: how did JP/Az/UrMage do?
<Negator> k
<brimstone> Azhri is probally the best.
<obithrawn> HAHA negator made a funny
<jelal> everyone, stop the name calling please
<brimstone> *Azhrei.
<obithrawn> jelal, its just...so easy :/
<Negator> JP: 2-3, mis a match cause he out eating
<brimstone> LOL
<brimstone> Eating?
<jelal> heh
<Negator> Ass:2-2 drop, Old School excrement did awful
<brimstone> OSE is probally the best type one deck.
<Negator> Urine mage: 2-2, maybe 2-3, lost to me re 4, awful sligh deck with 3 colors
<obithrawn> lol negator is so witty
<Negator> excrement is an awful deck
<brimstone> Really?
<brimstone> It won at origins.
<nargoT> i woulda beaten u negator...
<Negator> its goal: do to some cute tuff with power cards, then lose
<nargoT> and i suck at t1
<Negator> no
<jelal> Negator: STOP with the namecalling
<Negator> i used to be a T1 god
<Negator> then i started playing in real tourneys
<brimstone> Jelal: Name-calling is fine.
<Negator> with real prizes, rating points, qualifications, prizes, rewards, and prizes
<brimstone> I would do that, but I don't have the time.
<Negator> HAHA
<Negator> yu sound like your hhero ASShrei
<Cividel> I just get thousands of dollars in product and cash a year for judging
<Negator> no time
<Negator> that means you flat out CANT!!!!!!!
<brimstone> I have other important things like firends, which you lack.
<Negator> HAHA
<nargoT> i would beat u sooooo bad negator
<Negator> i am friends with at least 10 ppl at NG at least
<obithrawn> Civ, do you get foreign stuff for judging?
<nargoT> i do play parfait with maindeck rop red tho so i guess its just a good matchup
<Negator> I DONT PLAY SLIGH
<brimstone> I'm friends with at leat 300 people at my scholl of 500.
<Negator> that was for one tourney
<nargoT> u do so!
<Negator> my firnd, playing my deck, beat PARFAIT
<nargoT> but mine is tweaked parfait
<brimstone> Parafait is tier 2.
<nargoT> its ever better than most parfait
<Negator> brimstone, thats cause you give sex favors to the guys
<Cividel> obithrawn, Sometimes I get a sealed box or a couple starters, but not often... I've gotten like 2 boxes and maybe 5 starters over the years
<nargoT> i cut all those mox things
<nargoT> for basic plains
<nargoT> to make it better
<brimstone> Negator: No.
<obithrawn> Civ, I was just looking into becomming a judge a few days ago.... :/ I want to cool judge prizes
<Cividel> obithrawn, if you become a judge just for the compensation, I'll hunt you down and Brick you. *nodnod* People like that don't make good judges... if you want to judge because you want to promote the game... I"ll help you in any way I can
<jelal> I'm curious about why Az did so badly tho
<obithrawn> lol no actually I just like watching games and helping people with rules questions
<Cividel> Heh, my standard "I Wanna Judge!" response
<brimstone> Civ: What level are you?
<Cividel> I've been judging small events in western NY, NW Pennsylvania and NE Ohio for a few years as a level 0, I'm working on 2 and I've got several pending reccomendations for me once I'm ready to test for 3
<Cividel> I plan on getting 4
<brimstone> are you in NY?
<Cividel> *nod*
<Cividel> Over by Buffalo
<obithrawn> I just want to help the main guy locally judge, I think it would be interesting
<brimstone> Cic: You ever judge at neut.
<brimstone> *Civ
<Cividel> No
<Cividel> I wanted to drop by this last weekend to play, but I couldn't
<Cividel> Had to run an event Saturday, Saturday Night and then I had to help my friend move today
<Cividel> that sucked
<obithrawn> too bad
<Cividel> Judging teaches you a LOT of stuff about the game
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I can´t believe what´s going on here AGAIN!
My dear Rakso:
I know that you don´t want to hear it but all this quoting, warning and egobashing will only heat up the incident and will bind Legend and Negator to BD. I am starting to believe that you want this. You call it "humor" but I suppose that that is an excuse to hit them back. I have still your "harmless prank at the phyrexians" in my mind. That was as childish as your victims. Ignoring them would solve all problems. I said this during the Phyrexian Invasion before and you told me to shut up. But now there are people like K-Run, Matt and Nevyn (people with more "respect" than me) who think like me, would you please listen now?
Ahzrei:
Of course you do care. Everyone would. Otherwise you won´t reply to this stupid thread. What if you had won the tournament and Legend had dropped? What would you have said? Don´t fool yourself. You are starting to lose credabilty, especially after reading your last outburst of maturity.
Legend & Negator (and an answer to Matt´s question about psychology):
If you would have had your temper under control some months ago you would have been an accepted member of BD. We all could evolve our decks and become better players - that´s what BD is about. Now both sides are bickering like ...
You have a great ego. And like anyone else you don´t like being stomped over, discredited or cursed. You want recognition, you want to be accepted and you want - as stupid as it might sound - some love. As Matt said you are trying to archieve this with politeness but that is the hardest and longest way to go and you had not the patience. Then you tried it with boasting. Boasting will automatically devalue all other people around, given that they have vulnerable egos like you that will result into pissing everyone off. Boasting without any evidence (which should be accuired beforehand!) is annoying. At this point Legend´s unconscious motives turned into something like that: If they don´t love me they should at least hate me. It´s a desperate attempt to get at least some recognition and does always work - as you can see!
To all others:
Try to calm down and to see from a neutral point of view: Legend has won the tournament and deserves some respect. Ahzrei´s OSE isn´t a bad deck, anybody worth his salt should realize this. A god-like personality like Legend claims to possess should have the guts to say what is obvious. If someone other than Ahzrei would be associated with OSE Legend would not have said that. Has anyone read Nameless´ Article on Starcity so far? Why is noone bickering at him? His article is as arrogant as you accuse Legend of being arrogant but that´s okay ´cause it´s Nameless, not Legend. Am I the only person who is able to read such an article without getting upset? I just try to squeeze the useful information out of it and that´s it.
Sarcastic note:
After all I suppose that humanity isn´t that far away from still being an animal. Perhaps this thread should be move to the appropriate thread in the Rumor Mill ("If humanity is evil ...").
Nameless's article? Arrogant???
Um... no comment.
Lol. If I delete this, we're censoring. If I don't, we're bickering. Make up your mind!!!
Puschkin: No, I don't care that I had a bad day. Of course I would rather have won, but I am not bothered by the fact I did not. My ego is not bruised by the results of a game.
I choose to reply when I am being maligned and defamed, particularly because Negator has elected to speak ill of people who never said anything bad about him or to him. If you even can *think* that I am the type of person who would post something boastful or arrogant than you haven't been paying attention for however many years I have been on this site. I suggest that you not fool yourself either. If you want to talk credibility, then fine. I am confident that mine is intact and can not be harmed as the result of one bad day.
As far as my outburst of "maturity," I am so utterly sick of hearing jerks make bullshit posts about people on this board that I am through being nice about it. That Ortega fellow deserves to be treated like offal. People earn respect, and he didn't do that. I've been around here for about 4 years now, and after all the jerks who have come through, I'm tired of it. I'm also tired of either Rakso or me being singled out by every loser who comes through with a chip on their shoulder and an attitude. It's tiring to sit and take it all the time.
I appreciate your unbiased opinions though. Make no mistake about that; neutral eyes are important things, even if I don't agree with you. I also appreciate that you separate deck from builder.
Regarding Nameless, there is a difference between trash talking other people to put yourself over, and saying that you did well to put yourself over. Nameless's report reads like "Damn, this was tough but I DID IT ANYWAY!!!" to me.
Who the hell is Pushckin?
Open Letter for Everyone Involved in this Non-Sense:
K, Im going to make this as clear as I can.
Stop this Flame/'Humor' right now. I mean it. Take it to email or anywhere but this site. I'm really tired of this BS.
When I found BD about 2 yrs ago, thx to gizzard who used to be a regular, I was surprised that there were people who were still supporting this format and having intelligent conversations. i.e. Soothsaying vs Sylvan, and CardinalTM's now infamous proxy thread; i also got a real kick out of Inquest Deck of the Millenium (IDM). I learned that T1 has its own set of intricacies, and that its not a random format where people can bring in their multiplayer decks.
I noticed that BD has been going downhill cause instead of trying to help people, or promptly deleting what is obviously non-sense, BD regulars have been flaming back and encouraging cat-fights. I.e. Whats up with this site war with Phyrexia.com? To flamers on both sides: this is retarded. Magic is a game, enjoy it.
Im going on a limb and also say that Rakso, you have not been moderating adequately enough. I know you delete BS threads/post in old times, but i dont see how you can consider this as funny where its nothing but childish ego's clashing each other. I dont think any of this recent off-topic matters belong in a public forum.
No one I know in real life (paralyze, cardinalTM, gizzard, and etc.), who used to post here dont bother with this site anymore cause of all this BS. I dont see other cool regulars like NickF, ORGGG, or mikephoen here anymore, and I'm guessing they got tired of the spam also.
Alhazard (Paul Kim)
Hehe, I had an infamous thread
Now thanks to trash like this, I usually never bother reading or posting anymore.
Tom
aka CardinalTM
LOL! Someone is asking Rakso to moderate more heavily...that's a good one. There are lots of peeps who think quite the opposite, that all work and no play makes jack a dull boy, but that's just my opinion I guess, and opinions are spam, so I guess this post better be deleted.
Thread deletion and post deletion should be kept to a minimum. Close threads, warn people, edit spam posts and idiotic ramblings (like this), but don't delete posts. You're bound to anger people who found this thread amusing, or those who started in the process, and turn them away from you're site even an idiot like Legend (he's been plaguing us at Phyrexia too. We just laugh at him and flame him.) The use of mod powers should be considered akin to divine intervention, and occur as often. Solve problems in other ways besides bringing a sledge hammer of mod power down upon them, since eventually you'll end up with a conformist set of people whose only talent is jumping at the tune of a mod.
Alhazard: Although I do have to balance between what people want. Some people like this stuff; some hate it. Even Shadow gets a laugh out of this, to be honest.
In fairness... ONE thread is all this BS??? Out of over 3,000 messages on the Type I Mill?
Is that a fair allegation? I honestly don't think so.
Ahzrei:
a)I did not mean the tournament.
b)You may not be arrogant but I can understand that other people do think so. Reminding me of all your years you have been posting here prooves that.
c)You lost some of your credability for flaming Legend, not for dropping off the tournament. And this referres only to the credability you have in my eyes. Don´t feel attacked all the time.
d)I understand that you (and Rakso) are tired of being the main target. Again, to some degree, I understand why they target you.
e) I do seperate decks from builders. Builders from players, players from decks. I just pointed out that Legend doesn´t do it and that this causes many problems. I believe that all this would not have happened if BBS would have been called LegendBlue. That does not mean that I apreciate calling that LegendBlue. It just shows that we are all incapable of talking without being influenced by our feelings.
All in all nothing to worry about.
Rakso & Ahzrei regarding Nameless´ article:
That´s excactly what I tried to point out. The article was arrogant if you consider some expresions like "I am God and I´ll prove it!". It´s much the same as Legend´s "godlike personality". Both claim to be god and proved it via a tournament win. However, Nameless did it more subtely and kindly and, more important, Nameless has despite of his pseudonym "Nameless" a big name. You´ll forgive him many things ´cause you know him, whereas the same article written by Legend, Urza216 or a random MtgNews dude would be called arrogant. Legend is probably as good a player as Nameless is but now we´ll never know.
Meridian:
I have ()s since February, I am posting since about 9.2000 and I was lurking for over a year now. Just use the search button and search for messages by Puschkin. You will get between 5 and 10 pages of hits. That is if you are able to spell my name correctly of course. Would that be sufficient ? Can I post my opinion now? Or do I have to beat you on Apprentice before you can listen to me ? Hey, this thread is about bolstering egos! I won´t wonder if anybody calls BDs elitists.
Puschkin... c'mon cut Nameless some slack.
We can all take a joke. It's clear he was kidding, come on.
Context clues?
Thing is, Meridian might've perceived you as arrogant as well.
We know emotions and attitudes don't carry well online. So cut everyone some slack.
No, post mindlessly like Nick Ortega and Asshair up there. I can't understand this smarty stuff. I scored 076 in my SAT.
I responded to this in another thread, but that was before I had actually read Legend's post for myself.
Whereas before I was annoyed, now I feel only pity. So the rest of this post is for Legend, should he ever deign to read it.
I have been playing magic since Arabian nights, back when fork and and Shahrazad was more fun than anything, and since I have never played in a tournament as big as the one at neutral ground this past weekend. As such, I have never been exposed to people like I was at the tournament.
I met people whose company I genuinely enjoyed, and then I met you...and that whiny guy playing sligh.
But...Never have I seen someone as unduly arrogant and self absorbed as you are. It annoyed me that you were having a side conversation while we were playing, my thinking that it was at the least discourteous. Your condescending way of speaking to me was irksome as well, but being that my parents did a passing fair job of raising me, I said nothing, thinking that you take the good with the bad - especially in groups of people.
So, I think little of it, until 2am two days later at a Diner while we are all eating. Redman brings up exactly what you had written in your post. This is where the New York in me says that something ain't right with a skinny little bwoy playing card games thinking his rossclot self is something big.
Now I don't know which uncle or older brother picked on you too much, or how many kids shoved you in gym class, but the fact remains that you are a snot nosed, trumped up punk drunk on all the fantasy you can generate around yourself and all the powers you wield on your pretty pictured pieces of a-10 card stock.
There are not words to fully express the level of my disgust - not for what you wrote, but for having breathed the same air as you and actually shaken your hand.
Looking at you, I admit I was blinded. On the surface, you seemed very much a normal young man (excepting of course the purple tie). Yes, I was blinded...by all the vanglory, delusion and sheer cheek you emanate like a miasma of rot about your person.
I do not know where you come from, but wherever it is that they grow weeds like you, I hope they pluck up whatever fallow earth you sprang from and set the lot to the torch, if only but to spare us all the future risk of another like you taking root in a game that is just that: A Game.
And in the future when you piss off someone with less restraint...who punctuates their one word sentences with a fist...I want to be there, just to see your ball-head bounce twice before the pavement kisses you like no number of your made-up servant girls ever will.
When that day comes, I will take the next train out to the dump in Jersey where they'll inter you, slip on my hard-soled shoes and dance on your grave singing bloody hallelujah.
Sincerely,
Devin "Dragon Deck" Delgado
Quote:The Great Legend Speaks Once Again:My Latest Essay --Topic: Two Worlds
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By Legend on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 01:11 am:
I finally know that the problem is. Or, to be more specific, the problemS. It occurred to me during my correspondence with Brian David-Marshall, who runs Neutral Ground. After he had read my tournament report that I wrote to be featured at www.neutralground.net, he remarked to me that he was familiar with my Legend "character" that I had created for use on BDominia. At first, he was "put off" by my "grandiose" statements, and absurd tournament reports. But then, he said to me, he realized that it was actually quite funny.
Brian is the first person who has actually said to me that they realize that it is all merely absurd!! That it was all just designed for fun!!!At that moment, it dawned on me. Besides Negator, who doesn't count since he already knows me, Brian was the first person who could have a good laugh at nonsense such as tales of servants, grape-eating, having breakfast with Morphlings, and things like ridiculous tournament reports!!
In fact, I have actually been quite disturbed and amazed that I have gotten actual human beings to respond ANGRILY to me posting about things like castles, servants, and horses!! Can you beleive that? That reflects poorly on all of you. You actually take that seriously?? I really have to tell you, it amazes me.
Obviously, this post is going to be responded to angrily as well. But read on, anyway.
One of the problems is that almost none of you seem to be able to discern between reality and fantasy-land. Do I live in a castle? C'mon people!
Some people respond with things like "Shut the $&$&&$ Up!" Please, have a laugh, it has actually been too easy for me to torment you people, it really has. It is so boring, that I actually have no desire to write any more essays about my servants, my blinding entrances into Magic tournaments, and my ownership of numerous castles.
It is just too easy, and has lost any fun for me.
Now onto the next part of the essay.
The second reason why you have all hopelessly misunderstood me.
Although I don't live in castles, and I don't attend parties that have gods at them, I do LIVE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WORLD THAN YOU.
Now, I am going to tell you about WHAT MY LIFE IS REALLY LIKE, NOT WHAT LIFE IS LIKE IN LEGEND's CASTLE!!
The reality is, is that I do in fact live in a completely different world than any of you.
First of all, I will refer to this world as Legend's world, even though that will cause confusion, since I just got finished saying that the world of castles and horses is absurd and not real. I only do this because reality has become so blurred that I have actually become Legend and Edward at the same time!! They are now one because reality has become so completely distorted that that is what has happened. In fact, I am simply known as Edward....AKA Legend, as the Neutral Ground Tournament Report suggests.
So, to ease confusion, I will just refer to Legend's real world as the Real World of Legend (AKA Edward... AKA Legend...etc.)
Now, as I was saying, in my real existence, I actually live in a completely different realm than any of you.
I say whatever I want. I do whatever I want.
I say exactly what I am thinking. Exactly.
If you don't believe me, go see my tournament report that is now up at Neutral Ground. In it, I say that I think that I am the Best at Type I in the world. Yes, I actually think that. In my world, there is no such thing as a sense of decorum, or sparing anyone's feelings. There is no withholding of important thoughts in my writing.
That is your problem. All of you. You are either afraid to say what you really think because you don't want to be ostracized, or because you don't really believe it, even if you're mind tells you.
In my world, my ID runs things. The perfect example is not the tournament report that I wrote about the castles and servants.
Instead, the perfect example is my neutral ground tournament report. It is now up, as I said, on the front page at www.neutralground.net. You should read it because it is an entertaining report, and a completely pompous and arrogant report......at least to all of you it is.
To me it is the ultimate expression of my world:
I express exactly what I think in the exact way I want, regardless of so-called "good taste" or "social accpetability."
Let me put it another way: I have already received HATE MAIL via e-mail in response to this tournament report. Yes, that's right. And do you know why?
Because all of you have been completely rotted out and destroyed by a world that teaches you that reserve and delicate speech are the way to go. Do you realize how much the world at large suffers from this? You are all actually taught, from a very young age, that saying things about yourself that are highly complimentary, even self-promoting, is wrong, even if those things are true, or if you think they are true. And why?
Because you are all afraid of what will happen.
But nothing will happen if you give in to your desires!!
You want to go 120 miles per hour in a 55? Do it!
You want to speak the truth, that you have literally dominated a Magic format do it!! You want to wear a purple tie to a magic tournament? Do it!!! Now, while these may sound like highly personal examples of things that have actually happened, that is because that is my world. While these examples are just small ones of minor events to illustrate my point, I think you get the point.
Let's take Matt J D'Avanzo for example. Here is a good Type I Player. He has been playing his Keeper deck forever and going to Neutral Ground for many years. All of a sudden, after only one prior appearance on April 8, one Edward A. Paltzik shows up for 4 consecutive tournaments, including the biggest one in memory? This Edward, AKA Legend basically disrupts the placid, stagnant Neutral Ground environment, where it has basically been the following occurring every Sunday:
Matt J D'Avanzo, Eric Wilkinson, and Mike Pustilnik beating the living piss out of other people with their Keeper Decks. I mean, basically these three guys, along with Robert H. Williams, have basically been beating the living daylights out of people in Type I. Their ratings are high, and it is all good.
Then this completely over-the top maniac with a mono-blue deck that he invented comes in and wins basically every tournament. To them he is a jerk.
He says exactly what he thinks, which is that he is the greatest. This person is willing to step on you even if you are in your last, dying breaths. This person is me.
I will stop at nothing to reach my goal of having the highest Type I rating in the world. At this rate, it will not take very long at all. I am obssessed with winning. In my world, winning matters very, very much. In fact, that rotten little kid Dave Kaplan, in all of his charges against me did say one thing that was true. "Ed is obssessed with winning. To top things off Ed mentioned to me that all he cares about is winning, and that he doesn't care about winning the Grinder for the Grudge Match Invitation, merely for the sake of winning." Dave, I only have one thing to say to that.
Guilty as charged.
I am obsessed with winning. It is one of the few things I really care about.
I will toss you aside to meet my insatiable desire to win. I will run you over with a cement mixer if you are against me or a threat to my winning.
Further tying in to this, I basically do whatever the hell I want.
This is why you can't stand me, and why I bring up the example of Matt D'Avanzo.
How would you feel if someone like me came in and basically disrupted your entire environment?
How would you feel is you hated this person and you just couldn't say it?
Well that is how Matt probably feels. When our eyes meet, I see how he can't stand me. Same thing with other people like Azhrei. I am just craving the moment when Matt finally just says to me "I hate you, you &&&&*&)*) son of a &&*(*)."
But Matt is observing the credo of your world, and so he will likely not say it, because, thanks to this credo, he is too decent to say so.
Matt is actually nice to me. Do you believe this? He actually tries his best to have conversations with me!! And the funny thing is, I DON'T HATE MATT D'AVANZO!!!! I really don't. At least, not yet. I do hate a lot of people. In fact, I am a complete and total loner. It is a solo act. Sure, Negator is my good friend, but that is it. I operate alone. I build decks in seclusion. I prepare for other things in seclusion. I emerge from my hidden lair and strike at your world every now and then. Then I retreat to plan my next assault. Sometimes you can just tell when you are not liked. In fact, Matt is merely an example. I am currently one of the most reviled figures in Type I, and Magic in general. And I like it. Why? Because of how it happened.
It happened because of self-congratulatory tournament report like the one on Neutral Ground right now. It happened because I truly only care about a precious few things. One of those few things is complete and utter world domination in Type I, and, eventually, if I work up enough desire, the rest of Magic. And the scary thing is, this is one of the things i care about. There are a few other things I REALLY CARE ABOUT, and I am currently in the process of dominating those things. You actually know nothing of that life.
But as far as Magic goes, my single-minded pursuit of absolute, complete, total domination has completely and utterly thrown people off. My intentions of winning every tournament and not caring about who I offend, and of having a 2500 rating, or at least 2056, will not be halted by people who live by your rules. This also goes for the other pursuits of the other 90 or so percent of my life.
This is why someone like Azhrei, or the Maxx gets offended by my tournament reports. This is why a DCI Level 1 JUdge with a last name of Simpson sent a hateful e-mail to me. Because they don't understand that while sometimes I am just going for laughs, that i am really just the MOST BLUNT, MOST DETERMINED person you have ever met.
Azhrei actually said to me "You could actually be an ok guy." Well, if you lived in my dimension, you would see that I am. This really goes beyond the matters such as whether I invented Mono XL-U ub type I, which I essentially did. This really comes down to another issue:
Two world colliding.
For example, you cannot see the difference between gloating and someone just telling it like it is. The Legend report with castles was actually taken seriously. Then, people just couldn't understand why I was taking the chance to mercilessly attack Azhrei and others. Partially, it was just for fun, well, actually mostly. But this is not how I really feel.
What I really feel is that the tournament did provide a final and complete validation of all my Type I positions, inventions, and claims in general. The opportunity to mercilessly let those who have stood against have it is of course fun, because those same people have long indulged in that, pretending that my contributions were anyhting less than major.
But really, what was happening, is that I was merely exercising the directives that I have learned in my world. This includes saying exactly how I feel about a given situation. Plus I did not even take every opportunity to do this. Merely most of them. But only because I forgot to take all the opportunites. For example, if I had remembered to, I would have said that Devin Delgado is a total backstabbing jerk who acts like he is such a good sport, then talks about people behind their back, instead of confronting them. People such as David Kaplan, the most disgraceful human being I have ever seen.
While Dave was busy telling the people of this world how I had supposedly "cheated", lost in the shuffle was that I had given him the entire 25 dollar prize after I had beaten him in the finals of the previous weeks tournament.I had done this because I did't care about the prize. All I care about is the competition and winning. But you will hear about it if it is true. And it was true that I won the tournament. It is also true that it was even sweeter because of the circumstances.
But if people can't take the truth about things, then you can never understand my world. That is your loss. People in this world only see the surface of things, and only look at one, maybe two perspectives at most. You are looking at only a couple of things, where I am completely withdrawn, watching everything. Everything.
Lost in the shuffle is my genuine concern for decent sportsmanship and things like that.
People like Darren Di Battista and Jesse Pinchot can't even see the humor and fun in me saying to them "Don't mess with Legend." They see it gloating, not good fun. People see a tournament report at Neutral Ground as a blatant disgrace, an atrocity, when in reality it is me merely stating a fact: I have been dominant, I was dominant, my deck is great, I am great, and that is all there is to it. The truth is offensive in this realm. How amusing.
The tournament report also contains other truths, you'll just have to read it, but one thing is true: it is all the honest truth.
If I haven't dominated, then no one ever has. It is just the truth. Too bad.
Face it, I am so focused, determined, and raw, that I get done whatever I put my mind to. Whatever I put my mind to. I am not going to talk about SAT Scores, or football teams, or how I am a large man. All I am going to say is this: I've been right all along. Well, that what I think, at least!
Look, just say what you think. But don't emerge from your hive with thoughtless attacks on posts obviously intended for humor, or posts that feature thoughts that are grounded in fact.
My world is clearly not accessible to people like you. It is a world beyond your imagination, beyond your scope, where you do what you want, focus on what you want, then take what you want.
That's all for now
Hey there Legend. If you will recall, after you said "Don't mess with Legend," did you stick around to hear my reply? It was "Don't worry Ed, I won't," said through a smile and laughter. Winning isn't everything to me-- it's barely anything. I'm in it for fun, and I had a GREAT time at NG.
Bottom line is that if all your posts were like this one, then we'd all get along fine. You got a LOT of people pissed off when you left last time, and why on Earth you fixated on ME on your return is beyond me since all I ever did was say that Legend Blue was a beatable deck if you look at it from new perspectives-- thus agreeing that you had something environment altering. Essentially proving your point that what is old will not work as well as it once did. I may have coined the term BBS as well, but that deck and yours are not the same at all, though they are both XL-U.
I still think you're insane for not running Impulse or LoA. :P
It's not that anyone took your report seriously-- it's the fake attitude and insulting behavior that accompany it that irked everyone. Hell, if you had put yourself over without insulting anyone else I would have had a good laugh at it. My reality, however, is that I don't tolerate people who don't show people the respect they deserve.
I actually got a decent impression of you when we met-- I regret that neither of us made the move to TALK to the other one. It seems we were both waiting for the other to do so. I'm sorry for that. I don't hate you at all. If you're really that competitive about Magic, then I DO hope you win because it means so much to you.
In the spirit of honesty, I do hate Negator. He's far and away the most annoying person I have ever met in my whole life, and that's saying a lot. I am not in the practice of wishing people harm, but if I HAD to, I'd pick him. Truth be told, if he hadn't been around I'd have been a lot more likely to just strike up a conversation with you, but I couldn't stand being within 10 feet of that kid. Maybe that's just me, but from what I hear it's not.
People respect and admire confidence. They loathe and abhor arrogance. It's a fine line. Step a little bit the other way, and I think we'd all be a lot happier. After all, if you want to be the best it helps if people *think* of you as the best. Iverson will never be thought of like Jordan, even though he scores as many points.
We don't care about Keeper. We want Star City.
Ok, time for a long winded flame/rant/reply.
Quote:I finally know that the problem is. Or, to be more specific, the problemS. It occurred to me during my correspondence with Brian David-Marshall, who runs Neutral Ground. After he had read my tournament report that I wrote to be featured at www.neutralground.net, he remarked to me that he was familiar with my Legend "character" that I had created for use on BDominia. At first, he was "put off" by my "grandiose" statements, and absurd tournament reports. But then, he said to me, he realized that it was actually quite funny.
Quote:Brian is the first person who has actually said to me that they realize that it is all merely absurd!! That it was all just designed for fun!!!At that moment, it dawned on me. Besides Negator, who doesn't count since he already knows me, Brian was the first person who could have a good laugh at nonsense such as tales of servants, grape-eating, having breakfast with Morphlings, and things like ridiculous tournament reports!!
Quote:In fact, I have actually been quite disturbed and amazed that I have gotten actual human beings to respond ANGRILY to me posting about things like castles, servants, and horses!! Can you beleive that? That reflects poorly on all of you. You actually take that seriously?? I really have to tell you, it amazes me.
Quote:Obviously, this post is going to be responded to angrily as well. But read on, anyway.
Quote:One of the problems is that almost none of you seem to be able to discern between reality and fantasy-land. Do I live in a castle? C'mon people!
Some people respond with things like "Shut the $&$&&$ Up!" Please, have a laugh, it has actually been too easy for me to torment you people, it really has. It is so boring, that I actually have no desire to write any more essays about my servants, my blinding entrances into Magic tournaments, and my ownership of numerous castles.
It is just too easy, and has lost any fun for me.
Quote:The second reason why you have all hopelessly misunderstood me.
Although I don't live in castles, and I don't attend parties that have gods at them, I do LIVE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WORLD THAN YOU.
Now, I am going to tell you about WHAT MY LIFE IS REALLY LIKE, NOT WHAT LIFE IS LIKE IN LEGEND's CASTLE!!
The reality is, is that I do in fact live in a completely different world than any of you.
First of all, I will refer to this world as Legend's world, even though that will cause confusion, since I just got finished saying that the world of castles and horses is absurd and not real. I only do this because reality has become so blurred that I have actually become Legend and Edward at the same time!! They are now one because reality has become so completely distorted that that is what has happened. In fact, I am simply known as Edward....AKA Legend, as the Neutral Ground Tournament Report suggests.
So, to ease confusion, I will just refer to Legend's real world as the Real World of Legend (AKA Edward... AKA Legend...etc.)
Now, as I was saying, in my real existence, I actually live in a completely different realm than any of you.
I say whatever I want. I do whatever I want.
I say exactly what I am thinking. Exactly.
Quote:If you don't believe me, go see my tournament report that is now up at Neutral Ground. In it, I say that I think that I am the Best at Type I in the world. Yes, I actually think that. In my world, there is no such thing as a sense of decorum, or sparing anyone's feelings. There is no withholding of important thoughts in my writing.
Quote:That is your problem. All of you. You are either afraid to say what you really think because you don't want to be ostracized, or because you don't really believe it, even if you're mind tells you.
Quote:In my world, my ID runs things. The perfect example is not the tournament report that I wrote about the castles and servants.
Instead, the perfect example is my neutral ground tournament report. It is now up, as I said, on the front page at www.neutralground.net. You should read it because it is an entertaining report, and a completely pompous and arrogant report......at least to all of you it is.
To me it is the ultimate expression of my world:
I express exactly what I think in the exact way I want, regardless of so-called "good taste" or "social accpetability."
Quote:Let me put it another way: I have already received HATE MAIL via e-mail in response to this tournament report. Yes, that's right. And do you know why?
Because all of you have been completely rotted out and destroyed by a world that teaches you that reserve and delicate speech are the way to go. Do you realize how much the world at large suffers from this? You are all actually taught, from a very young age, that saying things about yourself that are highly complimentary, even self-promoting, is wrong, even if those things are true, or if you think they are true. And why?
Because you are all afraid of what will happen.
But nothing will happen if you give in to your desires!!
Quote:You want to go 120 miles per hour in a 55? Do it!
You want to speak the truth, that you have literally dominated a Magic format do it!! You want to wear a purple tie to a magic tournament? Do it!!! Now, while these may sound like highly personal examples of things that have actually happened, that is because that is my world. While these examples are just small ones of minor events to illustrate my point, I think you get the point.
Quote:Let's take Matt J D'Avanzo for example. Here is a good Type I Player. He has been playing his Keeper deck forever and going to Neutral Ground for many years. All of a sudden, after only one prior appearance on April 8, one Edward A. Paltzik shows up for 4 consecutive tournaments, including the biggest one in memory? This Edward, AKA Legend basically disrupts the placid, stagnant Neutral Ground environment, where it has basically been the following occurring every Sunday:
Matt J D'Avanzo, Eric Wilkinson, and Mike Pustilnik beating the living piss out of other people with their Keeper Decks. I mean, basically these three guys, along with Robert H. Williams, have basically been beating the living daylights out of people in Type I. Their ratings are high, and it is all good.
Then this completely over-the top maniac with a mono-blue deck that he invented comes in and wins basically every tournament. To them he is a jerk.
He says exactly what he thinks, which is that he is the greatest. This person is willing to step on you even if you are in your last, dying breaths. This person is me.
Quote:I will stop at nothing to reach my goal of having the highest Type I rating in the world. At this rate, it will not take very long at all. I am obssessed with winning. In my world, winning matters very, very much. In fact, that rotten little kid Dave Kaplan, in all of his charges against me did say one thing that was true. "Ed is obssessed with winning. To top things off Ed mentioned to me that all he cares about is winning, and that he doesn't care about winning the Grinder for the Grudge Match Invitation, merely for the sake of winning." Dave, I only have one thing to say to that.
Guilty as charged.
I am obsessed with winning. It is one of the few things I really care about.
I will toss you aside to meet my insatiable desire to win. I will run you over with a cement mixer if you are against me or a threat to my winning.
Further tying in to this, I basically do whatever the hell I want.
Quote:This is why you can't stand me, and why I bring up the example of Matt D'Avanzo.
Quote:How would you feel if someone like me came in and basically disrupted your entire environment?
Quote:How would you feel is you hated this person and you just couldn't say it?
Quote:Well that is how Matt probably feels. When our eyes meet, I see how he can't stand me. Same thing with other people like Azhrei. I am just craving the moment when Matt finally just says to me "I hate you, you &&&&*&)*) son of a &&*(*)."
But Matt is observing the credo of your world, and so he will likely not say it, because, thanks to this credo, he is too decent to say so.
Quote:Matt is actually nice to me. Do you believe this? He actually tries his best to have conversations with me!! And the funny thing is, I DON'T HATE MATT D'AVANZO!!!! I really don't. At least, not yet. I do hate a lot of people. In fact, I am a complete and total loner. It is a solo act. Sure, Negator is my good friend, but that is it. I operate alone. I build decks in seclusion. I prepare for other things in seclusion. I emerge from my hidden lair and strike at your world every now and then. Then I retreat to plan my next assault. Sometimes you can just tell when you are not liked. In fact, Matt is merely an example. I am currently one of the most reviled figures in Type I, and Magic in general. And I like it. Why? Because of how it happened.
It happened because of self-congratulatory tournament report like the one on Neutral Ground right now. It happened because I truly only care about a precious few things. One of those few things is complete and utter world domination in Type I, and, eventually, if I work up enough desire, the rest of Magic. And the scary thing is, this is one of the things i care about. There are a few other things I REALLY CARE ABOUT, and I am currently in the process of dominating those things. You actually know nothing of that life.
Quote:But as far as Magic goes, my single-minded pursuit of absolute, complete, total domination has completely and utterly thrown people off. My intentions of winning every tournament and not caring about who I offend, and of having a 2500 rating, or at least 2056, will not be halted by people who live by your rules. This also goes for the other pursuits of the other 90 or so percent of my life.
This is why someone like Azhrei, or the Maxx gets offended by my tournament reports. This is why a DCI Level 1 JUdge with a last name of Simpson sent a hateful e-mail to me. Because they don't understand that while sometimes I am just going for laughs, that i am really just the MOST BLUNT, MOST DETERMINED person you have ever met.
Azhrei actually said to me "You could actually be an ok guy." Well, if you lived in my dimension, you would see that I am. This really goes beyond the matters such as whether I invented Mono XL-U ub type I, which I essentially did. This really comes down to another issue:
Two world colliding.
Quote:For example, you cannot see the difference between gloating and someone just telling it like it is. The Legend report with castles was actually taken seriously. Then, people just couldn't understand why I was taking the chance to mercilessly attack Azhrei and others. Partially, it was just for fun, well, actually mostly. But this is not how I really feel.
What I really feel is that the tournament did provide a final and complete validation of all my Type I positions, inventions, and claims in general. The opportunity to mercilessly let those who have stood against have it is of course fun, because those same people have long indulged in that, pretending that my contributions were anyhting less than major.
But really, what was happening, is that I was merely exercising the directives that I have learned in my world. This includes saying exactly how I feel about a given situation. Plus I did not even take every opportunity to do this. Merely most of them. But only because I forgot to take all the opportunites. For example, if I had remembered to, I would have said that Devin Delgado is a total backstabbing jerk who acts like he is such a good sport, then talks about people behind their back, instead of confronting them. People such as David Kaplan, the most disgraceful human being I have ever seen.
While Dave was busy telling the people of this world how I had supposedly "cheated", lost in the shuffle was that I had given him the entire 25 dollar prize after I had beaten him in the finals of the previous weeks tournament.I had done this because I did't care about the prize. All I care about is the competition and winning. But you will hear about it if it is true. And it was true that I won the tournament. It is also true that it was even sweeter because of the circumstances.
But if people can't take the truth about things, then you can never understand my world. That is your loss. People in this world only see the surface of things, and only look at one, maybe two perspectives at most. You are looking at only a couple of things, where I am completely withdrawn, watching everything. Everything.
Quote:Lost in the shuffle is my genuine concern for decent sportsmanship and things like that.
Quote:People like Darren Di Battista and Jesse Pinchot can't even see the humor and fun in me saying to them "Don't mess with Legend." They see it gloating, not good fun. People see a tournament report at Neutral Ground as a blatant disgrace, an atrocity, when in reality it is me merely stating a fact: I have been dominant, I was dominant, my deck is great, I am great, and that is all there is to it. The truth is offensive in this realm. How amusing.
Quote:The tournament report also contains other truths, you'll just have to read it, but one thing is true: it is all the honest truth.
If I haven't dominated, then no one ever has. It is just the truth. Too bad.
Quote:Face it, I am so focused, determined, and raw, that I get done whatever I put my mind to. Whatever I put my mind to. I am not going to talk about SAT Scores, or football teams, or how I am a large man. All I am going to say is this: I've been right all along. Well, that what I think, at least!
Quote:Look, just say what you think. But don't emerge from your hive with thoughtless attacks on posts obviously intended for humor, or posts that feature thoughts that are grounded in fact.
Quote:My world is clearly not accessible to people like you. It is a world beyond your imagination, beyond your scope, where you do what you want, focus on what you want, then take what you want.
That's all for now
Legend, Ed, you are obviously immature, which is no crime, but I hope you listened to everything Spike said, for it's been a while since I read such honest truthfullness. Thanks Spike. :-)
But ladies and gentlemen, relax, for there is hope. I met Brian David-Marshall again today, and he likes Legend (the person), and I think he will take Ed under his wing so to speak and help him attitude-wise. Since I know Brian to be not only one of the very best people in all of Magic, but in LIFE, I think we will see a more humble, more realistic Ed in the future. I hope so.
BTW, Ed, I won the last 4 of five T1 events I competed in, winning the last with a T2 B/R deck, the other 3 with Azhrei decks, and losing the finals with T2 Stompy vs Juzam/Discard in the first of five. Does that make me a better T1 player than you and the one true God-King of T1?
Hardly. Rather, I thank God or Fate or good fortune for my success, and am grateful for it.
In a 26-person tournament, I would never say the winner was the best player with the best deck. I would say he was a GOOD player. I would say he was a FORTUNATE player. I would say he MIGHT have been the best, but more likely he was a top player in that format who had the best combo of Pairings/Draws/Topdecks. You have every right to be proud and happy for winning that tournament, but NO right to lord it over the rest of us. That's simply hubris. Get over it. Please.
And Oh, we ALL went through that "Brutal Honesty" phase that you are obviously in. It's a nice dream, but unrealistic, as Spike said. There's such a thing as being humble and diplomatic, and grateful for good fortune (you had that combined with skill), but I have NEVER learned anything by winning. Losing, fortunately or unfortunately, teaches much, for those willing to listen.
Fare thee well, my brother-in-Magic. Join us, don't fight us, except during battle, natch. And that goes for you too, Yan. Be cool, guys, because the best way to be cool is to, well, ...BE cool! Capice, pizons?
Sincerely,
Greg Smith
God-King-Emperor-Ayatollah of Type One Magic!!
(just kidding!!) :-)
It ain't over until Greg Smith sings... ;)
No, seriously Oscar, wasn't Spike's long response the final word? I was just updating you that Brian thinks Legend is OK.
I've already saved Spike's eloquent words to Word, in case Phyrexia gets jiggy with you and this thread gets deleted/shut down. It's a classic.
Perhaps we should turn this discussion to Negator and Kaplan.
Then again, maybe not.
Greg please post this on Bd for me as a reply to Spike and Ed:
Introduction
I have not been following this whole thread and mostly have been hearing
about it from friends who have been kind enough to share bits & peices. I did
read both Ed's article on NG which while a tad boorish was indeed rather
funny. I also read a cutnpasted version of both his essay and Spike's rather
long winded if more or less dead on response.
about Matt and Eric
I dont know Legend (Ed) though I have been going to Neutral Ground since its
inception in may of 1995. I do know Matt and Eric, both of whom he alludes
to. Eric and Matt and I discussed Ed the friday before the Grinders. These
guys are genuinely nice guys and not because they are afraid to be nasty or
have it ingrained in them. Because they have integrity, respect (both self
and for others), and a sense of compassion. In our conversation neither Eric
nor Matt ever maligned Ed personally. They did make numerous remarks about
his deck which they considered to be a pile. They feel monoblue is not a
dominant archetype but if you are going to play it at least play some card
drawing (impulse) and the ever good wastelands. There were other derogatory
comments made about the deck but not its creator. Ed Matt and Eric dont hate
you. They may hate what you represent. No one likes the dog in the manger
role.
About Maturity and Negative Attention Getting
It is an ever more common theme among young people growing up today that we
should be as bad as we want to be. Ive noticed this more and more in
advertising and in comercial arts (movies, tv shows, rap and rock). This
trend goes from minute things to extremes. The fact is that if everyone
actually acted on their impulses anarchy would result. I dont mean political
anarchy. I mean absolute anarchy. So even though there is a lot of pressure
to be just like everyone else and rebel... the rebelions are so small most of
the time the world still manages to go on without pause.
There has always been an undercurrent of hedonism and epicurianism in this
country( the us) within the puritanical traditions we have been passed down.
Following your impulses can be both a good and bad thing. In an artist it can
mean newfound heights of creativity and expression of that creativity. It can
also mean depression, drug abuse, murder, suicide, rape and larceny. How we
choose to limit ourselves determines which if any of these things happens in
our lives. Most of us grow out of the need to express this when we become
involved in serious relationships with others. this stage is also known as
becoming an adult.
Generalizations
Now these are generalizations and I have known exceptions that prove the
rule. The thing to remember if you are going to be the exception is that you
are choosing the role of outcast and hermit. It is by no means a permanent
role and if you decide someday you tire of being misanthropic and want human
companionship you will be free to attempt to change your ways. However
generally speaking most people who know of your past will shun you and give
you untrusting stares because they fear the potential anarchy you represent.
Thats right most people fear changing the status quo.
Status Quo
Now to cut off your arguement let me make it for you. Status quo exists to be
shaken up. Any self-respecting revolutionary will tell you this. [What most
revolutionarys fail to realize is that breaking with the Status Quo leads to
dire consequences. It is not the revolutionarys leading the charge who end up
in charge (most of the time). It is rather those who followed them and lent
them support who shoot them when their time has come and take over for them.
Dont let this dissuade you from raising the rabble and shaking things up.]
Cause & Consequence
The point that Spike made about cause and consequence is the most accurate
one he hit upon though there were others. The fact is if you are willing to
stir the pot you implicitely accept getting burned. If you come in to a
generally peaceful place (as BD seems to be from most accounts) and start
raising Hell then expect to get burned at the stake. You may find this hard
to beleive Ed but you are not unique. You definitely have a good way with
words that if harnessed might even net you some success as a writer. You do
have a sense of humor but you dont seem to have a sense of limits or
compassion. Your words are not hallow exactly but the anger that lies beneath
them is misplaced. The people at BD and NG are not yours to conquer. What is
yours to conquer is yourself. How can you propose to rule others in something
even as trivial as a card game (sorry fellows, cards are trivial) if you
cannot rule yourself?
On being under BDM's Wing
I have known Brian David Marshall almost as long as I have been playing magic
and while we share many common interests we have had our differences of
opinions too. This is what I like most about Brian: He has an articulate
opinion but he doesnt force it on others. He is a good person to be tutored
by because he does have a jaundiced eye towards the oddities of others. His
sense of humor is both rich and dry and cuts like a razor. Ed I recommend you
listen to what the man has to say.
Coda
Spike said it mostly right though his response was colored by his anger and
it rambled much like this one does. I felt the need to add my own two cents
to clarify some ideas and facts and to relate somethings that I felt were
unsaid. If you feel the need to respond... Well I am not on this board so you
will have to email me. (u***e@c***c.com) thanks for reading this.
Paul Emerson Leicht
Armyhead on IRC
u***e@c***c.com
a***h@l***l.com
Now i hope BDM doesn't e-mail me next and ask me to post his reaction!
At least some good is coming out of this... I gave Legend more respect than he deserved the first time around, and probably wouldn't be such an outcast if he wove his demented fantasies directed against George Bush instead of BD, and talked strategy without the major chip in his shoulder.
I remember back during his first grand entrance when Az and company were reminding everyone that Keeper could outplay BBS if the Keeper player were smart, I was the first guy asking how exactly.
Lol, and I remember saying that if you have to ask, it might be times to switch sides. ;)
Here is Legend's Deck:
4 Morphling
4 Back to Basics
4 Fact or Fiction
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
4 Counterspell
4 Mana Leak
2 Misdirection
2 Powder Keg
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Set of Moxes
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall <===== 2nd Best card in Magic
19 Island <===== Best card in Magic
Sideboard
2 Misdirection
2 Powder Keg
2 Nev’s Disk
4 Hydroblast
4 Blue Elemental Blast
1 Island
Seems like a solid build to me.
Bear in mind I haven't played T1 since January, so I have no idea what the metagame is.
But with this deck, do you have to?
Isn't it a "just wins" deck? Like The Holy Grail or sumthin? Could a monkey pilot it? Huh?
What's wrong with this championship deck, if anything?
Shoot, I may play it at the upcoming NG GM 2nd T1 Qualifier, TELL everyone I'm playing it, and still win with it. Nice job, Legend.
Did you REALLY invent this?
Be honest now.
THAT'S your forte, right?