Smmenen's Pre-Judgement Keeper

Beyond Dominia: The Type One Magic Mill: Smmenen's Pre-Judgement Keeper

By Stephen Michael Menendian (Smmenen) on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 01:19 pm:

//NAME: Keeper
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Emerald
1 Black Lotus
1 Strip Mine
2 Wasteland
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Undiscovered Paradise
3 Tundra
4 Underground Sea
3 Volcanic Island
1 Tropical Island
4 City of Brass

// Countermagic
4 Force of Will
1 Misdirection
4 Mana Drain

// Creature Control
1 Balance
1 Zuran Orb
2 Morphling
1 The Abyss
1 Fire/Ice
1 Diabolic Edict

1 Dismantling Blow
1 Gorilla Shaman

1 Regrowth
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Timetwister
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Mind Twist

// Search/Draw
1 Sylvan Library
1 Braingeyser
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Time Walk
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Jayemdae Tome

// SB
SB: 3 Dwarven Miner
SB: 1 Meddling Mage
SB: 3 Swords to Plowshares
SB: 2 Circle of Protection: Red
SB: 4 Red Elemental Blast
SB: 1 Moat
SB: 1 Aura Fracture

By CooberP, the Aura Fracturer of B2Bs (Cooberp) on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 01:35 pm:

You need another Wasteland, and Twister and Book are wack.

By Stephen Michael Menendian (Smmenen) on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 01:36 pm:

I kind of felt the same way about Twister - but Meridian convinced me on the matter. Twister simply belongs in Keepers. I don't mind having one book - it turns stalemates into wins.

I agree, I do need another wasteland. But I don't know how badly.

By Freddie Williams II (Freddie) on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 01:44 pm:

you have got the dwarven miner SB...!

3 of those sexy bitches!

why the meddling mage?

What do you do about graveyard recursion?
(no crypt)


By Azhrei (Azhrei) on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 02:01 pm:

You need a 28th mana source too-- might I suggest a Wasteland?

By CooberP, the Aura Fracturer of B2Bs (Cooberp) on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 02:02 pm:

Twister and Will are not buddies. Twister is suicide against combo or non-discard beatdown. Twister is only good half the time against control. Twister is not worth a maindeck spot in Keeper. Book needs 8 mana to break even, and by the time you draw 2 cards off it it will get D-Blown so you get no advantage from it.
I thought Keeper was dead?

By Azhrei (Azhrei) on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 02:09 pm:

Twister is really good. It's also a really wierd card to use, so in a lot of cases you're just better off using something that is more obviously useful.

By Matt D'Avanzo, the Sylvan Librarian (Matt) on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 05:18 pm:

Actually this deck looks, well, good. A little like Mako's keeper actually (although the SB is much more hardcore redundant).

In defense of two card: A) Twister IS good, it's just that the proper use of it is a dying art. HOWEVER, if I was playing Twsiter maindeck I would really, really want to have Shaman/4-5 Strips to max out the chances of getting permanent advantage. It's also complete ass against sligh and mono-U which are two popular decks, thus I don't run it. However, it's a GREAT card and remains the only thing that can possibly save you when no one card can. B) Book is also really solid in control mirrors, but slow as anything against combo or aggro. Again I like the card, but can't see myself running it as it's so conditional.

The only thing is that I worry the mana base needs another wasteland (obviously) and another Volcanic. 4 Rebs and 3 Miners is a HELL of a lot of red.

BtW what's the reasoning behind Meddling Mage?


By Stephen Michael Menendian (Smmenen) on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 03:40 pm:

Meddling Mage was one of those quirky cards I wanted to test and it performed suprisingly well. The mage just stops combo - performing the function that Abyss and Moat do against Aggro by nuetralizing a path to victory. Play against Trix and name illusions followed by concession. Generally, just name the most vulnerable part of the combo and you should win. (Of course it's debatable whether Combo loses to Keeper anyway and also you have to worry about Combo's sb strategies.

Mage is also effective to play against Mono Blue. It's a really cheap creature that can be used effectively becuase of mono blue's redundancy. I haven't explored the full possibilities with Mage yet, but so far I like it.

Stephen Menendian

By Matt D'Avanzo, the Sylvan Librarian (Matt) on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 04:58 pm:

I've thought about using Mage in the past myself. I imagine it could be decent against mono-U. It blocks Phids all day long and you can name keg (so they can never get rid of it) or B2B.

By Matt D'Avanzo, the Sylvan Librarian (Matt) on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 05:00 pm:

Oh and for the record: Pikula told me he invented the Mage as a control SB for the Necropotence deck (the idea being you could name Necro and now they could't force it through with dicard).

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