Game Logs: Mono blue players: "How to Turn a Loss into a Win" -- BPB versus Nether Void

Beyond Dominia: The Type One Magic Mill: Game Logs: Mono blue players: "How to Turn a Loss into a Win" -- BPB versus Nether Void

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By Stephen Menendian (Smmenen) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 03:24 pm:

Since I have been playing mono blue this is one of the more amazing games I've played in terms of turning around a completely lost game.

I was playing a Match in BDchat versus Panzi - I had won game one and this was game two:

13:02:43 - Smmenen is setting up cards.
13:02:43 - Smmenen has a 15 card sideboard
13:02:43 - Smmenen has a 60 card deck.
13:02:46 - panzi has a 15 card sideboard
13:02:46 - panzi has a 60 card deck.

13:02:48 - panzi is shuffling library...
13:02:49 - panzi says:'p'
13:02:49 - Smmenen is shuffling library...
13:02:49 - Smmenen is shuffling library...
13:02:50 - Smmenen is shuffling library...
13:02:50 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:02:51 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:02:51 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:02:51 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:02:51 - panzi drew 7 cards.
13:02:51 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:02:52 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:02:52 - Smmenen draws a card.

13:02:54 - panzi says:'kp'
13:02:55 - Smmenen says:'keep'

13:03:00 - panzi plays Snow-Covered Swamp.
13:03:00 - Snow-Covered Swamp is tapped.
13:03:02 - panzi plays Duress.
13:03:05 - panzi is looking through Smmenen's hand...
13:03:20 - Smmenen moves Annul from Smmenen's hand to Smmenen's graveyard.
13:03:21 - panzi stops looking through Smmenen's hand.
13:03:27 - panzi plays Mox Emerald.
13:03:29 - panzi buries Duress.

13:03:37 - It is now turn 3.
13:03:42 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:03:45 - Smmenen plays Island.

13:03:47 - It is now turn 4.
13:03:49 - panzi draws a card.
13:03:51 - panzi plays Llanowar Wastes.
13:03:52 - Snow-Covered Swamp is tapped.
13:03:54 - panzi plays Duress.
13:03:59 - panzi is looking through Smmenen's hand...
13:04:05 - Smmenen moves Annul from Smmenen's hand to Smmenen's graveyard.
13:04:06 - panzi stops looking through Smmenen's hand.
13:04:06 - Smmenen says:'it was hard to sb'
13:04:07 - panzi buries Duress.
13:04:09 - It is now turn 5.
13:04:12 - Smmenen says:'becuase I have no idea what you might bring in'
13:04:16 - Smmenen says:'if I lose this one'
13:04:20 - Smmenen says:'I think game three will be easier'
13:04:24 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:04:31 - Smmenen plays Library of Alexandria.

13:04:35 - It is now turn 6.
13:04:44 - panzi draws a card.
13:04:46 - panzi plays Swamp.
13:04:47 - Snow-Covered Swamp is tapped.
13:04:48 - Mox Emerald is tapped.
13:04:48 - Llanowar Wastes is tapped.
13:04:48 - Swamp is tapped.
13:04:48 - panzi plays Masticore.
13:04:50 - Smmenen says:'k'

13:04:52 - It is now turn 7.
13:05:00 - Smmenen draws a card.

13:05:23 - It is now turn 8.
13:05:27 - panzi moves Mishra's Factory from panzi's hand to panzi's graveyard.
13:05:27 - panzi draws a card.
13:05:29 - Masticore is tapped.
13:05:29 - Masticore is attacking.
13:05:30 - Smmenen's life is now 19. (-1)
13:05:30 - Smmenen's life is now 18. (-1)
13:05:31 - Smmenen's life is now 17. (-1)
13:05:31 - Smmenen's life is now 16. (-1)

13:05:35 - It is now turn 9.
13:05:42 - Smmenen says:'just out of curiosity'
13:05:47 - Smmenen says:'how is Masticore good against me?'
13:05:52 - panzi says:'youll see'
13:05:56 - Smmenen says:'in general'
13:06:01 - Smmenen says:'I mean you'll win this one'
13:06:07 - Smmenen says:'but'
13:06:10 - Smmenen says:'going into game three'
13:06:15 - Smmenen says:'would you keep it in?'
13:06:17 - panzi says:'well any creature i have is good against you'
13:06:21 - Smmenen says:'ok'
13:06:22 - panzi says:'cant block it with '
13:06:26 - panzi says:'ophid'
13:06:27 - Smmenen says:'phids'
13:06:27 - Smmenen says:'I know'

13:06:38 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:06:40 - Library of Alexandria is tapped.
13:06:46 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:06:48 - Smmenen plays Island.

13:06:54 - It is now turn 10.
13:06:58 - panzi moves Mishra's Factory from panzi's hand to panzi's graveyard.
13:06:59 - panzi draws a card.
13:07:00 - Masticore is tapped.
13:07:01 - Masticore is attacking.
13:07:03 - Smmenen's life is now 15. (-1)
13:07:03 - Smmenen's life is now 14. (-1)
13:07:03 - Smmenen's life is now 13. (-1)
13:07:03 - Smmenen's life is now 12. (-1)

13:07:09 - It is now turn 11.
13:07:14 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:07:21 - Smmenen plays Island.
13:07:28 - Smmenen says:'this is my last change to get a keg'
13:07:31 - Library of Alexandria is tapped.
13:07:32 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:07:37 - Smmenen plays Mox Ruby.
13:07:40 - panzi says:'it regerates'
13:07:51 - Smmenen says:'hmmm'
13:07:54 - Smmenen says:'yeah'
13:07:55 - Smmenen says:'I lose'
13:07:57 - Smmenen says:'but'
13:08:00 - Smmenen says:'I'll finish the game'
13:08:06 - panzi says:'k'

13:08:12 - It is now turn 12.
13:08:17 - panzi moves Llanowar Wastes from panzi's hand to panzi's graveyard.
13:08:18 - panzi draws a card.
13:08:19 - Masticore is tapped.
13:08:19 - Masticore is attacking.
13:08:20 - Smmenen's life is now 11. (-1)
13:08:21 - Smmenen's life is now 10. (-1)
13:08:21 - Smmenen's life is now 9. (-1)
13:08:21 - Smmenen's life is now 8. (-1)

13:08:22 - It is now turn 13.
13:08:24 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:08:26 - Library of Alexandria is tapped.
13:08:27 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:08:30 - Smmenen plays Island.
13:08:31 - Island is tapped.
13:08:32 - Mox Ruby is tapped.
13:08:32 - Island is tapped.
13:08:37 - Smmenen plays Ophidian.

13:08:52 - It is now turn 14.
13:08:52 - panzi says:'k'
13:08:55 - panzi moves Snow-Covered Swamp from panzi's hand to panzi's graveyard.
13:08:56 - panzi draws a card.
13:09:03 - Masticore is tapped.
13:09:03 - Masticore is attacking.
13:09:05 - Smmenen's life is now 7. (-1)
13:09:05 - Smmenen's life is now 6. (-1)
13:09:05 - Smmenen's life is now 5. (-1)
13:09:06 - Smmenen's life is now 4. (-1)
13:09:12 - Snow-Covered Swamp is tapped.
13:09:13 - Llanowar Wastes is tapped.
13:09:15 - Llanowar Wastes is untapped.
13:09:15 - Swamp is tapped.
13:09:18 - panzi plays Chains of Mephistopheles.
13:09:20 - Smmenen says:'ahh'
13:09:25 - Smmenen says:'I thought you might have sb’ed that in'
13:09:27 - Smmenen says:'actually'
13:09:29 - Island is tapped.
13:09:33 - Island is tapped.
13:09:36 - Smmenen plays Mana Leak.
13:09:41 - panzi says:'well it was dumb to play never the less'
13:09:46 - panzi buries Chains of Mephistopheles.

13:09:47 - It is now turn 15.
13:09:52 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:09:59 - Island is tapped.
13:10:00 - Mox Ruby is tapped.
13:10:03 - Smmenen plays Impulse.
13:10:06 - panzi says:'k'
13:10:15 - Smmenen is looking through top 4 cards of library...
13:10:28 - Smmenen says:'hmm'
13:10:31 - Smmenen says:'how to not lose'
13:10:33 - Smmenen says:'mmm'
13:10:35 - panzi says:'lets playa new game'
13:10:40 - Smmenen says:'wait'
13:10:41 - panzi says:'ive got to go'
13:10:42 - Smmenen says:'I may have a shot'
13:10:46 - panzi says:'in 10 min'
13:10:50 - panzi says:'ok go ahead'
13:11:00 - Smmenen says:'remeber I've been holding time walk'
13:11:23 - Smmenen moves a card from Smmenen's library to Smmenen's hand.
13:11:29 - Smmenen moves a card to bottom of library
13:11:31 - Smmenen moves a card to bottom of library
13:11:33 - Smmenen moves a card to bottom of library
13:11:39 - Library of Alexandria is tapped.
13:11:42 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:11:44 - Ophidian is tapped.
13:11:44 - Ophidian is attacking.
13:11:47 - Smmenen says:'draw'
13:11:51 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:11:53 - Island is tapped.
13:11:54 - Island is tapped.
13:12:04 - Smmenen plays Time Walk.
13:12:10 - Smmenen plays Island.
13:12:10 - Island is tapped.
13:12:11 - Island is tapped.
13:12:13 - Smmenen plays Impulse.
13:12:14 - panzi says:'kk'
13:12:14 - Smmenen buries Time Walk.
13:12:20 - Smmenen is looking through top 4 cards of library...
13:12:29 - Smmenen says:'god I need more morphs'
13:12:33 - Smmenen moves a card from Smmenen's library to Smmenen's hand.
13:12:36 - Smmenen moves a card to bottom of library
13:12:37 - Smmenen moves a card to bottom of library
13:12:39 - Smmenen moves a card to bottom of library

13:12:51 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:12:57 - Smmenen plays Island.
13:12:59 - Library of Alexandria is tapped.
13:13:01 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:13:04 - Ophidian is tapped.
13:13:04 - Ophidian is attacking.
13:13:07 - Smmenen says:'draw'
13:13:08 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:13:14 - Island is tapped.
13:13:16 - Mox Ruby is tapped.
13:13:17 - Island is tapped.
13:13:20 - Smmenen plays Ophidian.
13:13:24 - panzi says:'heh'
13:13:29 - Smmenen moves Back to Basics from Smmenen's hand to Smmenen's graveyard.

13:13:32 - It is now turn 16.
13:13:34 - panzi moves Pernicious Deed from panzi's hand to panzi's graveyard.
13:13:35 - panzi draws a card.
13:13:37 - Masticore is tapped.
13:13:38 - Masticore is attacking.
13:13:42 - Smmenen says:'block'
13:13:46 - Smmenen says:'if I get a morph'
13:13:46 - panzi says:'k'
13:13:47 - Smmenen says:'here I win'
13:13:52 - Smmenen says:'and I have a damned good shot at it'
13:13:56 - Smmenen buries Ophidian.

13:13:58 - It is now turn 17.
13:13:59 - Smmenen says:‘eot’
13:14:00 - Island is tapped.
13:14:01 - Island is tapped.
13:14:03 - Smmenen plays Impulse.
13:14:07 - Smmenen is looking through top 4 cards of library...
13:14:21 - Smmenen moves a card from Smmenen's library to Smmenen's hand.
13:14:24 - Smmenen moves a card to bottom of library
13:14:25 - Smmenen moves a card to bottom of library
13:14:27 - Smmenen moves a card to bottom of library

13:14:31 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:14:34 - Smmenen plays Island.
13:14:36 - Smmenen says:'LOL'
13:14:40 - Smmenen says:'I WIN!'
13:14:45 - Smmenen buries Impulse.
13:15:08 - Smmenen says:'to do this just right'
13:15:08 - Smmenen says:'hmm'
13:15:27 - Library of Alexandria is tapped.
13:15:28 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:15:35 - Island is tapped.
13:15:37 - Mox Ruby is tapped.
13:15:39 - Island is tapped.
13:15:41 - Island is tapped.
13:15:42 - Island is tapped.
13:15:44 - Smmenen plays Morphling.

13:15:45 - It is now turn 18.
13:16:05 - panzi moves Wasteland from panzi's hand to panzi's graveyard.
13:16:05 - panzi draws a card.
13:16:17 - Masticore is tapped.
13:16:17 - Masticore is attacking.
13:16:21 - Smmenen buries Ophidian.

13:16:27 - It is now turn 19.
13:16:35 - Smmenen draws a card.
13:16:41 - Library of Alexandria is tapped.
13:16:42 - Library of Alexandria is untapped.
13:16:45 - Smmenen plays Island.
13:16:47 - Library of Alexandria is tapped.
13:16:48 - Smmenen draws a card.

13:17:00 - It is now turn 20.
13:17:07 - panzi draws a card.
13:17:10 - panzi moves Strip Mine from panzi's hand to panzi's graveyard.
13:17:11 - Smmenen moves Island from Smmenen's hand to Smmenen's graveyard.
13:17:23 - Masticore is tapped.
13:17:24 - Masticore is attacking.
13:17:40 - Smmenen says:'before damage is on the stack'
13:17:43 - Island is tapped.
13:17:47 - Island is untapped.
13:17:48 - Mox Ruby is tapped.
13:17:50 - Smmenen says:'4/2'
13:17:54 - Snow-Covered Swamp is tapped.
13:17:54 - Mox Emerald is tapped.
13:17:54 - Swamp is tapped.
13:17:54 - Llanowar Wastes is tapped.
13:17:56 - panzi says:'2 to it'
13:17:58 - Smmenen says:'response'
13:18:00 - Island is tapped.
13:18:02 - Smmenen says:'untargetable'
13:18:05 - panzi says:'ok gg'
13:18:07 - panzi says:'thanks '
13:18:10 - Smmenen says:'I can't belive'
13:18:10 - panzi says:'ggs'
13:18:11 - Smmenen says:'I won that'

In the final turn I had 10 mana open including the library and the mox. The reason I didn't block with the morph the turn before was because I wanted open counter mana just in case he had something really devastating in his hand.

My Deck:

//NAME: BPB
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Library of Alexandria
15 Island
// Countermagic
4 Mana Leak
4 Counterspell
4 Mana Drain
3 Misdirection
4 Force of Will
// Drawing
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Impulse
// Creatures
4 Powder Keg
3 Back to Basics
2 Morphling
4 Ophidian
// SB
SB: 1 Back to Basics
SB: 1 Misdirection
SB: 1 Thwart
SB: 4 Control Magic
SB: 4 Blue Elemental Blast
SB: 4 Annul

In essence I had missed an early land drop (which got me in library range) and sucked up alot of damage to use a well timed time walk. Every time I play this deck I get the feeling that something is wrong and that I'm playing something that is too broken.

Stephen Menendian


By Stephen Menendian (Smmenen) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 03:44 pm:

I suppose its worth mentioning that at the end of the game he only had one card in his hand because of the core and my hand was:

Mana Leak x 3
Mana Drain
Back to Basics
Powder Keg
Force of Will

Steve


By Matt D'Avanzo, Paragon of Vintage (Matt) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 03:47 pm:

What could this exiting, subtle play that turns around the game be? Oh...he dropped Morphling and blocked the Core.

--Matt


By Stephen Menendian (Smmenen) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 03:52 pm:

Simply dropping a morph wouldn't have been enough - I needed an obscene amount of mana to cast morph and block. It was a combination of other factors - ie time walk (thanks for the suggestion) and phid blocking given the bleakness of the early game - i mean missing a land drop.

Steve


By Stephen Menendian (Smmenen) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 03:53 pm:

My post never even implied anything about subtle or exiting turns - simply that given the beginning of the game it seemed I was screwed and that I won from a seemingly lost position.


By Matt D'Avanzo, Paragon of Vintage (Matt) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 04:01 pm:

I'm just kidding you! Sorry, I just can't bring myself to use that stupid little smiley face thing.


By Jacob Orlove (Orlove) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 06:07 pm:


Quote:

13:12:29 - Smmenen says:'god I need more morphs'





Hmmm...how many are you running now?


By Jacob Orlove (Orlove) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 06:09 pm:

whoops...didn't see the deck list. Maybe run three?


By Rakso, Patriarch & Rules Ayatollah (Rakso) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 09:23 pm:


Quote:

In essence I had missed an early land drop (which got me in library range) and sucked up alot of damage to use a well timed time walk. Every time I play this deck I get the feeling that something is wrong and that I'm playing something that is too broken.



Actually, you just gave an example of how BBS should ride on Ancestral and LoA, and why it needs 4 Kegs or 4 Morphlings to Impulse for.

It's card advantage. Had Masti been a Juzam or something, he would've played Mishra and still won, again showing that Masti isn't your best creature against control.


By Rakso, Patriarch & Rules Ayatollah (Rakso) on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 11:45 pm:

Sorry, this was too funny to pass up:


Quote:

<Rakso> I actually went through that long log
<Rakso> I STILL don't get what the exciting play was
<Rakso> I'm like
<Rakso> You do a lot more than that with Keeper than with BBS
<Rakso> Since you have other things aside from Morphs to handle threats
<Rakso> He LoAs into Impulse into Impulse into Morphling to block
<Rakso> The only exciting thing about it is
<Rakso> He didn't run 4 Morphs in the first place
<Rakso> So I think I missed something
<CF> I didn't get that play either
<CF> I was like... "so, morphling.. and?"
<Rakso> lol
<CF> where is the key gamewinning play?
<CF> impulse?



By Stephen Menendian (Smmenen) on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 04:18 am:

I don't understand where this idea of a "key game winning play" came from. I never claimed that there was one.

Stephen Menendian


By Rakso, Patriarch & Rules Ayatollah (Rakso) on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 04:34 am:


Quote:

Every time I play this deck I get the feeling that something is wrong and that I'm playing something that is too broken.



By Stephen Menendian (Smmenen) on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 04:51 am:

I'm still in the dark - could you maybe elaborate? My quote that you posted doesn't seem to indicate a game winning play. My quote simply said that I think my deck is really broken.

Steve


By Kirdape3, the Court Jester of Beatdown (Kirdape3) on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 05:01 am:

It's not, though. That's the thing... it's 'grind your soul out' Forbiddian that's been around for ages and ages. Even I'm wondering why you posted this, and I feel your deck's very good.


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