Testing of Browbeat

Beyond Dominia: The Type One Magic Mill: Testing of Browbeat

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By MeatPipeline (Meatpipeline) on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 09:25 am:

I have been thinking about some of the Judgment cards lately. The one that looks most promising to me is:

Browbeat
2R
Sorcery
Unless a player has ~this~ deal 5 damage to him or her, target player draws three cards.
“Even the threat of power has power.” – Jeska, warrior adept
Judgement Uncommon

This card has some major advantages and disadvantages that I was looking at.

Advantages: Both effects are powerful. The prospect of drawing 3 cards in any deck is good. Immune to misdirection because about the only deck playing misdirection is control and in that match up you have life to spare.

Disadvantages: Your opponent gets to choose. Browbeat is not a come from behind card (It doesn't work if you are losing). It has to be played in an aggro deck or else the 5 damage will not be as strong of an effect.

I was wondering if anyone has done any testing on this card as of yet and what they found out.

I will be doing some testing in my G/R Type 1 Hate Deck (Freddie posted it a while ago). I will post the deck with a critique of Browbeat later.

Thanks,

Phil (meatpipeline)


By Dreisgen (Dreisgen) on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 03:14 pm:

I might test it in a U/R deck. However, is it strictly used to damage an opponent, and U lose flexibility of damaging creatures against aggro.


By Stephen Menendian (Smmenen) on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 04:55 pm:

That can't say target player - other wise the card would read 2R, draw three cards - and it would be too good.

Stephen Menendian


By Schmakt (Schmakt) on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 04:57 pm:

I think the card drawing is target player, but any player may take five damage to prevent the target player from drawing three cards...


By Matt D'Avanzo, Paragon of Vintage (Matt) on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 05:19 pm:

>>>That can't say target player - other wise the card would read 2R, draw three cards - and it would be too good.

Huh?


By Katzby (Katzby) on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 05:56 pm:


Quote:

That can't say target player - other wise the card would read 2R, draw three cards - and it would be too good.

Stephen Menendian




Just as a side note, even *if* the card said "Unless target player has ~this~ deal 5 damage to him or her, target player draws three cards," which it does not, it still wouldn't be that good. That's because of the duplicate targeting rules, eg., you can't target the same thing more than once with the same spell/effect. So, if this was what the card said, then the target player who chooses to take damage could not be the same target player who would draw the cards.


Katzby


By Green Knight (Greenknight) on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 06:45 pm:

Browbeat reads as:
"Unless a player has Browbeat deal 5 damage to him or her, target player draws three cards" check out the full spoiler with pic's here:
http://members.fortunecity.com/thejudgmentday/
it's pretty cool.


By Dreisgen (Dreisgen) on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 02:54 pm:

I think I'll also test it in sligh. U know, 5 damage is nice for R2, and if ur opponent lets u draw 3, these 3 can be deadly too.

I currently use Reckless charge in my sligh, bur Browbeat deserves a try.


By Dandan (Dandan) on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 06:01 am:

3cc in Sligh means a Mana Drain assisted Morphling against you with island back up.


By Razor (Razor) on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 07:46 am:

Dandan, it means you have to enjoy burning his face.

Razor


By Steve O'Connell, King of Metaphors (Zherbus) on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 08:04 am:

In my opinion, it being a sorcery over an instant is what will ultimatly prevent it from being a quality card.

Being able to do something like that EOT would be real cute.


By Dandan (Dandan) on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 08:17 am:

I've tried the 1R blow up a non-basic land or do 6 acrd (forget the name). It seems far more in line with what Sligh should be doing. Even so it is a borderline card (somedays I like it but when I'm looking to shoehorn a card into the deck it gets pulled out).

Browbeat costs more, deals less damage (which lets face it, is what these cards will usually do) and doesn't disrupt your opponent. Compare it to any good burn spell or Wheel of Fortune and you'll see it isn't strong. It is however a lot betting than Scullscorch.


By Kirdape3, the Court Jester of Beatdown (Kirdape3) on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 09:35 am:

I'm thinking that Cursed Scroll's actually a better idea to get online and keep online than Browbeat is. Sure, Keg for one really eats you that way, but you don't get a dumb Drain into Morphling/Twist/whatever that way.


By Dreisgen (Dreisgen) on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 05:23 pm:

I have tested it a little, and it seems average. I tested it in sligh and U/R counter burn deck.


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