From Well, this isnt very encouraging

Beyond Dominia: The Type One Magic Mill: From Well, this isnt very encouraging

By Cuandoman (Cuando) on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 12:03 am:

Q: "Does the FFL only create and test decks for the Standard and Limited and Block Constructed environment, or do they test decks for other formats like Extended and Type 1? If they don't, why not?"
-- Laura Mills, Denver, CO

A: From Mike Donais, Research & Development:
"In the FFL (Future Future League) we build and test Standard, sealed deck, and booster draft the most. We also devote a few weeks to Block Constructed. We rarely build Extended decks unless we see something that looks really broken in Extended. Generally, if we think something will be a problem in Extended we talk about it in theory instead of specifically building and testing it, because of how much time it takes to build and tune Extended decks. Since Extended contains so many sets, adding one more set will change the environment a lot less than adding one set to Block Constructed or Standard would. What we test needs to be prioritized so that we spend our time as efficiently as possible."

Where is the mention of T1 in the answer? hmmm... Why am i feeling no love here?

By Bad Player Meyer (Jpmeyer) on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 02:02 pm:

Because Type 1 has so many cards in it that only the best cards can make it in. FoF and MAYBE Nantuko Shade are like the only real Type 1 level cards since Saga block.

By Steve O'Connell, King of Metaphors (Zherbus) on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 02:06 pm:

CotH is decent, but not in a top tier deck, or good enough to MAKE a deck top tier. We got POOP pretty much everywhere else and the wishes look to be a flop so we get to see the trend continue.

By DigDug (Digdug) on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 02:46 pm:

This is kinda funny. There's one thread complaining that Type 1 doesn't get anything new, and another working on breaking Worldgorger.

By Tristal (Tristal) on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 03:45 pm:

Quirion... Dryad....? Did you guys forget Grow is actually successful, or have I been smacked around by Pat Chapin too much?

Watch for Seedtime to make an impact on mono-green decks, and even the green tier 1 stuff (oath, grow) will use this.

I would mention a lot more cards, but if you want to play your old decks, go ahead. :)

By FeverDog (Feverdog) on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 04:50 pm:

Fact or Fiction, Meddling Mage, Pernicious Deed, Shadowmage Infiltrator, Call of the Herd and Nantuko Shade are all being played in T1 to varying degrees. Some of them are amazing and others are just ok but all of them are quite solid and playable in T1.

By AHappyClown (Clown) on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 05:04 pm:

Type 1 hasn't gotten anything since Urza's block? Are you mad?

What about Misdirection(any U based control), Aura Fracture(Keeper), Ivory Mask(Parfait) and Rushwood Legate(Stompy) from the Masques block alone? I'm sure there are things that I'm missing too.

By Slippery (Slippery) on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 05:36 pm:

Actualy I don't think the last couple of sets were that bad. Indeed mis-d fof pernicious deed, blastoderm, addle, dimantling blow, nantuko shade, fire ice etc are all good cards, although no major disturbance in the Type 1 force. (I'm beginning to talk star wars, better watch it)

It's not the fact that wizards doesn't print good cards anymore that irritates me(they are only more balanced, but that's nothing to blame them for) ,it's the fact that there aren't any T1 events to compete in around. I really don't believe giving life to T1 is financialy as inattractive as they seem to think.
Where I come from T1 is still the most loved format, but because of wizards lack of interest in the game not the most played.

By AHappyClown (Clown) on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 04:32 am:

I think FoF caused a pretty big disturbance.

By Gzeiger, not a paragon (Gzeiger) on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 06:50 am:

Type 1 shouldn't get more than a couple cards every set, and even that should slowly decelerate over time.

If there's a rash of new playable Vintage cards it would mean that everything currently in print is better than anything that came before, and that can't be healthy for very long.

Nantuko Shade may be the best black creature in ages (at least since Negator) you can't also have in the same set something to beat Duress and something to beat Sinkhole and everything else. The game would swiftly get to be stupid.

By CF (Cf) on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 08:44 am:

All of you, get in line. I'm going to piledrive each of you through a table of burning Holistic Wisdoms.


By Nevyn, the Village Idiot (Nevyn) on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 10:37 am:

"I'm going to piledrive each of you through a table of burning Holistic Wisdoms. "

Glad you FINALLY found a good use for your wisdoms :)

Seriously though, I dont expect too many good cards for type one from new sets. A couple per set at least would be nice though.

The problem is that by that answer, they dont even LOOK for type one combinations when developping, meaning that especially after the rotation, they wont be testing new cards against the bulk of possible combinations. This has to make you think that sooner or later they will screw up (again) and we will be left with months of degenerate environment.

By Cuandoman (Cuando) on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 03:11 pm:

Exactly my point in the first place

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