My Oath deck is using Holistic Wisdom as well, and I'm finding it quite abusive. Not a shameless plug or anything......
As far as Turboland, if your name is Zvi, Turboland is great. Otherwise I think it is a difficult deck to play well.
By Ben on Wednesday, December 05, 2001 - 03:56 pm: I play Turbo Land. It is viable, just really hard to get it so you can play it fast enough not to draw every round. It is able to be done though... ...lots of practice. Know the deck inside and out, and you can win PTQs. As for its match ups they are all ok. Trix is not really as tough as it sounds. just last night, I got Illusions Donated to me twice but i saced Feeder the first time (Duhh), and was able to go infinate, paying the upkeep and gaining life with the Feeder untill I got to 23 and then let the Illusions die. Morph sent for 50+!!! Over all Turbo Land is tight enough to play at major tournies, just ask Zvi.
By Ben on Wednesday, December 05, 2001 - 03:57 pm: I play Turbo Land. It is viable, just really hard to get it so you can play it fast enough not to draw every round. It is able to be done though... ...lots of practice. Know the deck inside and out, and you can win PTQs. As for its match ups they are all ok. Trix is not really as tough as it sounds. Just last night, I got Illusions Donated to me twice but i saced Feeder the first time (Duhh), and was able to go infinate, paying the upkeep and gaining life with the Feeder untill I got to 23 and then let the Illusions die. Morph sent for 50+!!! Over all Turbo Land is tight enough to play at major tournies, just ask Zvi.
By tacodeshell says on Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 03:31 pm: i'm kinda shy about this decklist but if you want it email me at
Ts***[email protected]***p.com
use subject turboland or i'llthink it's junk mail and delete it thanks
By Vesuvan (Vesuvan) on Friday, December 07, 2001 - 05:51 am: From what I saw at the PTQ last weekend, Turboland is a good deck if you like getting draws. Most of the Turbolnd players were sporting 2+ draws after the 4th round, and thus were out of the top 8.
Unless your name is Zvi, Turboland just doesn't seem to cut it in the current environment. If your opponent doesn't mind getting a draw (hence doesn't scoop), Turboland can be harder to finish games in the time limit than Stasis is... and that's saying something!
By Landlord on Friday, December 07, 2001 - 08:44 am: turboland is still a good choice, if you modify it a little
I added red for fire/ice(instead of oath !) and dropped the spikes for 1 crater hellion and 1 extra counter
this version is good vs illusion but weaker vs creatures (oaths are in side)
By Gzeiger (Gzeiger) on Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 08:19 pm: Vesuvan - how so? It typically only takes five turns once you get the recursion going - one to play Morphling and four to kill with him. Once you get the library depleted it's fairly straightforward to Scroll Rack into the Time Warp each turn - there's not a lot of fanciness involved.
By Superman on dope on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 03:10 am: Zvi's "TurboLand: Plan B" did not do extremely well at GP Vegas because he had prepared it for a field full of Trix combo and control decks. It turned out that green/x aggro were running rampant, a vastly different metagame. Still a good deck as long as you modify it right.
)