Humor -- Magic vs Pokemon in the Philippines

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By Rakso, the Patriarch and Rules Ayatollah (Rakso) on Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 04:06 am:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Tan"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 11:59 PM
Subject: [meridianmagic] Old Philippine joke thread (Magic vs Pokemon)


> [Moderator: Those this is a little unusual I'm gonna allow it, simply because the explanation of the word "tambay" made me laugh hard and long.]
>
>
> Mighty Mike Kastberg!
>
> This is an old "essay" for a Philippine Magic vs Pokemon contest (that got
> two entries) a few months back.
>
> A high school kid re-posted it on the Philippine dci list, and I had fun
> reading it again. I was wondering if you might appreciate it.
>
> The subject of the joke is Pusoy Dos, a Philippine card game that may be
> known as "cho dai dee" in America. It's kind of like a cross between poker
> and bridge.
>
> The game involves laying down single cards, pairs, three-of-a-kinds or
> trios, or five-card Poker hands including straights, flushes, full houses
> and four-of-a-kinds. Similar to bridge, you play a set of cards after
> another player (but it must be the same number of cards; thus you only play
> single cards if the first player played just one card, and can only play
> five card hands following another five card hand) but can only play a
> "higher" set.
>
> (A four-of-a-kind is treated as a five-card hand by adding an extra card,
> any card.)
>
> Thus, a three can be followed by a four or higher, and a straight must be
> followed by a higher straight, or a flush, full house, four-of-a-kind or
> straight flush.
>
> Once other players decline to follow with another "set" of cards, the last
> player to play his cards gets "control" and plays a new set, which need not
> be of the same number as the last one. (Thus, if a player plays a formidable
> straight flush and everyone declines to play cards because they have no
> five-card hand better than that, the player may then play the lowly four he
> had in his hand.)
>
> A player wins by emptying his hand. Because you cannot play a lower "set"
> than the one just played (such as playing a three after a four), higher
> cards are more powerful as they gain you control and let you dictate the
> game so you can discard your weaker cards.
>
> The catch is that the TWO or the "dos" cards are valued higher than Aces
> just for this game. Thus, with the four twos or "dos" cards, you can easily
> dominate a four player game because each "dos" wins over an entire series of
> single cards by itself, gaining you control.
>
> Because you must break "ties" between single cards and pairs, some suits are
> higher than others, similar to bidding in bridge. Usually, diamonds are the
> highest, followed by hearts, then spades, then clubs. Thus, any four is
> higher than any three in the game, but a three of diamonds is higher than
> any three and may not be followed by another three if played singly (or a
> pair with the three of diamonds may not be followed by the lower pair of
> threes).
>
> (Thus, the weakest card in the game is the three of spades, as its low value
> makes it very difficult to play.)
>
> Thus, the highest individual card in the game is the two of diamonds or "dos
> diamond". Also, the three of clubs is the lowest card in the game, and the
> player who has it must play it (singly or with other cards to form any valid
> pair, three-of-a-kind or five card hand) to begin the game.
>
> Finally, the game is usually played until only one person is left with cards
> and is declared the loser (so he can be punished by having him shuffle or be
> replaced by a waiting player). When a player loses all his cards, "control"
> immediately passes to the player on his right, and he plays a fresh "set" of
> his choice, of any number.
>
> Thus, if you win and the people to your right all have just one card (or
> exactly one set), it is an automatic "loss" for the person to your left
> since they just play their last sets and win automatically.
>
> It sounds complicated but this country loves it. Arranging your 13-card hand
> among many possible configurations requires strategy!
>
> Also, when betting is involved, bets are usually doubled for each "dos" that
> the winner plays in his last hand.
>
> Oscar Tan aka Rakso
> Type I Maintainer
> www.bdominia.com
>
> PS -- Here's a short glossary...
>
> "tambay" -- closest translation is "guy bumming around with nothing better
> to do"
>
> "cono" -- Spanish word bastardized in Filipino slang to refer to a
> stereotypical mestizo rich kid who dresses in designer clothing and speaks
> with a high-sounding strange accent in a mix of Filipino and English
>
> "Ateneo cono bench" -- Hyped up bench outside the college cafeteria of the
> Ateneo de Manila University where the most "cono" allegedly hang out
>
> "mang" -- Filipino equivalent of "mister" but generally used for men of
> lower socio-economic classes (with no stigma or discrimination)
>
> "Dean Alfar" -- Original Philippine tourney organizer and the first National
> champion (or was it second?)
>
> "Ronnie de Leon" -- Store owner in Manila and real nice guy
>
> "Dance, Dance Revolution" -- Surely you've heard of the Playstation games
> where players dance to steps shown on the screen using special dance pad
> controllers on the floor?
>
> > >>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 23:27:42 +0800
> > >>To: p***i@o***s.com
> > >>From: s***o@p***i.com
> > >>Subject: [dci] Magic vs Pokemon Essay, as demanded by Tennille :)
> > >>
> > >>"A comparative study between Magic: the Gathering and Pokemon"
> > >>
> > >>by Oscar Tan; submitted to Prof. Dean Alfar, Novelty Entertainment
> > >>
> > >>INTRODUCTION:
> > >> The debate between Magic and Pokemon has gone on long enough. It is
> time
> > >>to decisively end the controversy once and for all. (What did you
> expect?
> > >>Something profound?)
> > >>
> > >>METHODOLOGY:
> > >> The two card games shall be closely compared on many of their
> > >>characteristics. The game that wins the most comparisons shall be deemed
> > >>most appropriate for the Philippine setting. As a control, a third card
> > >>game shall be introduced. This shall be a game with a very rich history,
> a
> > >>game that demands intricate strategy. A genuinely Filipino card game.
> > >> And, the whole thing shall be formatted for people with short attention
> > >>spans (so sorry if it stretches the entire essay concept.).
> > >>
> > >>Round 1: Market positioning
> > >>Magic: "An intellectual sport."
> > >>Pokemon: "Gotta catch them all."
> > >>Pusoy Dos: "The game of tambays everywhere."
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/1)
> > >>
> > >>Round 2: TV following
> > >>Magic: Amateur home video shown on ESPN 2
> > >>Pokemon: Weekly primetime slot
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Played in front of TVs nationwide
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/2)
> > >>
> > >>Round 3: Educational value
> > >>Magic: Depicts demons and horrors
> > >>Pokemon: Depicts cute and cuddly pocket monsters
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Depicts numbers and letters
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/3)
> > >>
> > >>Round 4: Babes
> > >>Magic: Serra Angel
> > >>Pokemon: Um. what is Pikachu's gender?
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Bar girl at nearest beer house
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/4)
> > >>
> > >>Round 5: Economics
> > >>Magic: Black Lotus beyond $400
> > >>Pokemon: 11 cards for P400
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Can trade the average rare for a deck 4 people can play with
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/5)
> > >>
> > >>Round 6: Best tie-up
> > >>Magic: Cards come free with online contests
> > >>Pokemon: Cards come free with CDs
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Cards come free with plane rides worldwide
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/6)
> > >>
> > >>Round 7: Best gimmick
> > >>Magic: First CCG to launch foil cards
> > >>Pokemon: First CCG to distribute cards using vending machines
> > >>Pusoy Dos: First card game to use pornographic backs
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/7)
> > >>
> > >>Round 8: Learning curve
> > >>Magic: Timing rules require doctorate in mathematics
> > >>Pokemon: Card names require pronunciation guide
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Must know poker
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/8)
> > >>
> > >>Round 9: Worst rules argument
> > >>Magic: What happens when I cast Replenish with 4 Humility, 4 Opalescence
> > >>and 4 Pandemonium in my graveyard?
> > >>Pokemon: If I have a confused Machoke and a Rattata on the bench, can I
> > >>cast Switch, then retreat Rattata then attack?
> > >>Pusoy Dos: What suit is the highest?
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/9)
> > >>
> > >>Round 10: Most devastating finish
> > >>Magic: Ancestral Recall! Mana Drain! Mirror Universe! Fireball! You die!
> > >>Pokemon: Rain Dance! Charizard! Knockout!
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Trio tres! Straight flush! Quadro Dos! Pay up, times four!
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/10)
> > >>
> > >>Round 11: Signature quote
> > >>Magic: "You got your childhood wish at last. Now you get to die." -
> Gerrard
> > >>(Smite)
> > >>Pokemon: "Pika-pika-chu!" - Pikachu (every episode)
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Mercifully, none
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/11)
> > >>
> > >>Round 12: Role Model
> > >>Magic: Dino Yu, model daddy who participates in his child's interests :)
> > >>Pokemon: Tennille Tan, model student with self-confessed second
> childhood :)
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Mang Godofriedo, neighborhood hustler
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/12)
> > >>
> > >>Round 13: Worst villain
> > >>Magic: Mike Long, alleged strange deck randmization
> > >>Pokemon: Little Johnny, throws tantrums when losing
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Mang Salustiano, drunk off-duty cop with loaded firearm
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/0/13)
> > >>
> > >>Round 14: Proponent of game
> > >>Magic: Dean Alfar, tournament coordinator
> > >> "I used to own one of only two Mishra's Factories in the country!"
> > >>Pokemon: Tennille Tan, student
> > >> "I use the money from judging Magic to buy Pokemon!"
> > >>Pusoy Dos: J. Orville Salazar y Ibarra, Ateneo cono bench tambay
> > >> "I make gupit all my klase to make laro this laro!"
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pokemon (0/1/13)
> > >>
> > >>Round 15: Backer of proponent
> > >>Magic: The DCI
> > >>Pokemon: "Papa" Ronnie de Leon
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Ateneo cono bench
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pokemon (0/2/13)
> > >>
> > >>Round 16: Moneymaking possibilities
> > >>Magic: Make thousands of dollars by winning the world championship
> > >>Pokemon: Make thousands of pesos by swindling kids passing by Virra Mall
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Double your money in a couple of hours
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/2/14)
> > >>
> > >>Round 17: Least boring of boring matchups
> > >>Magic: Mono blue with Faerie Conclave vs Mono blue with Stalking Stones
> > >>Pokemon: Mr. Mime vs Mr. Mime
> > >>Pusoy Dos: All players have nothing better than pairs
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/2/15)
> > >>
> > >>Round 18: Sindak value
> > >>Magic: Opponent plays land, Mox, Mox, Mox, Black Lotus, Time Walk,
> > Timetwister
> > >>Pokemon: Opponent begins game by filling bench with nothing but foils
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Opponent accidentally drops four 2s and winks
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/2/16)
> > >>
> > >>Round 19: Most heartbreaking defeat
> > >>Magic: Opponent plays Cadaverous Bloom and casts a 20-point Drain Life,
> and
> > >>you cast an Ebony Charm and drain back 1 life
> > >>Pokemon: You play your rhino pokemon and make the coin flips
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Opponent plays a Dos Hearts, which you beat with the Dos
> Diamond
> > >>he thought someone already dropped, and his only other card is a Three
> of Spades
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/2/17)
> > >>
> > >>Round 20: Most broken card
> > >>Magic: Ancestral Recall, draws you three cards for one mana
> > >>Pokemon: Professor Oak, draws you seven cards for free
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Dos Diamond, wins over anything
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/2/18)
> > >>
> > >>Round 21: Dirtiest play
> > >>Magic: Cast Might of Oaks on an attacking Elvish Lyrist
> > >>Pokemon: Gust of Wind out a Pokemon with just 10 HP left
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Play a straight flush over opponent's Full House with Kings
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/2/19)
> > >>
> > >>Round 22: Sneakiest play
> > >>Magic: Sac your Academy Rector and bring out a Yawgmoth's Bargain
> > >>Pokemon: Use Super Energy Removal on a Stage 2 Pokemon with 2 colored
> > >>energy and a Double Colorless
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Lay down two five-card plays and win, and pass control to the
> > >>two people to your right each have just one card left.
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/2/20)
> > >>
> > >>Round 23: Most annoying play
> > >>Magic: Discarded Nether Spirit followed by Dark Ritualed Contamination
> > >>Pokemon: Scoop Up, after opponent deals 90 damage to your 100 HP Pokemon
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Play a Queen over a Four
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Pusoy Dos (0/2/21)
> > >>
> > >>Round 24: Collector's progress
> > >>Magic: Bot Butaran to complete Goblin collection after he finds a Beta
> > >>Goblin King
> > >>Pokemon: Ash still unable to complete Pokemon collection after dozens of
> > >>episodes
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Hmmm. mahirap ito!
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Magic (1/2/21)
> > >>
> > >>Round 25: Game icon (with sig quote)
> > >>Magic: Dean Alfar, "The Top 8 will do Dance, Dance Revolution in front!"
> > >>Pokemon: Pikachu, "Pika-pika-chu!"
> > >>Pusoy Dos: Mang Artemio, "Ang tagal naman ng amo ko!"
> > >>
> > >>Winner: Magic (2/2/21)
> > >>
> > >>CONCLUSION:
> > >> So why the complaints about expensive booster packs?


By Moose on Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 05:17 am:

The card game is called Big 2 in America, and we play it all the time at my high school


By Rakso, the Patriarch and Rules Ayatollah (Rakso) on Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 12:10 pm:

The only Americans I met familiar with it, I met in Hong Kong.

But I figured you people knew about it somehow, so I just described enough of it to encourage you to get the connection.

What high school (actually, what state or city) is this?

Do you know it as a Filipino game or did it originate somewhere else, to your knowledge?


By Moose on Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 03:28 am:

I am in California. near Los angeles. i have no clue where the game originated from. the only thing that is different about the game that you described is that we usually play with the high suit being spades, then hearts, then clubs, and finally diamonds are the lowest.


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