T1ToC4 -- Predictions

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By JP 'Polluted' Meyer, the Archivist (Jpmeyer) on Sunday, July 01, 2001 - 11:47 pm:

Here we go!

Elrond v. Arex (GGW v. Mexican Zoo)

Arex's deck should be able to put up a significant amount of pressure before Elrond's deck can stabilize. Add Timetwister and SB Plows/Crypt into the mix and things could get ugly. Still, Elrond should win a game if Arex gets a slow draw or he nails a key land with an early Sinkhole. 2-1 Arex

Sylvester vs. manic (Peace of Crap/Iron Phoenix v. Keeper)

Sylvester just has too many dead cards game 1. He still should get a win just off of a timely Blood Moon. 2-1 manic

Gzeiger vs. Chaos (Academy v. BBS)

Combo v. BBS. That's all we need to know. 2-0 Chaos

The Maxx vs. Alhazard (Nether Void v. Sligh)

Nether Void normally beats Sligh. But The Maxx has only 2 maindeck Kegs and no Rain of Tears. 2-1 Alhazard

Acolytec vs. BrimstoneDragon (BBS v. RDK)

Boy is this one tough to call. Acolytec has 2 maindeck B2B. BrimstoneDragon has Elemental Augury and 4 SB REB. Still, gotta go with the Emperor here. 2-1 Acoyltec

URMage vs. White Knight (Rubefacere v. WW)

Rubber Face might have utility, but it's still a Sligh deck fighting a WW deck with Empyrial Armor. 2-1 White Knight

ETP vs. Tyger (Weird Ass Flying Beatdown v. Skies)

And now, the strangest matchup here. ETP has bigger dues, but Tyger has removal and can say no. 2-1 Tyger.

HavoK Dark vs. Mako Satou (Oath v. Keeper)

Toughy. I'm going with Mako since HavoK just has WAY too many creatures in his deck. 2-1 Mako

Tir vs. Redman (Tirx v. Azhrei WW)

Redman has some disruptive spells. But Tirx is a much better deck than most people give it credit for. If he can deal with Meddling Mage, he should pull through. 2-1 Tir

Jelal vs. TomM (Arena Rock v. Wild PandeBurst)

Discard just puts the combo cards into the graveyard more easily. But Jelal should be able to get a fast win with a Negator and some disruption. 2-1 TomM

Meridian vs. cooberp (Academy v. Dark Keeper)

See Gzeiger's prediction. 2-0 cooberp

Bogey vs. Azhrei (Nether Void v. Mirrors)

Well, Mirrors can drop Oath and just beat black. Nether Void destroys Abyss but not the Oath. SB Dystopias should be brutal but Az will only need to win one game post-SB. 2-1 Azhrei

K-Run vs. Ultimage (Parfait v. SRB)

K-Run's running 2 Story Circle now, in addtion to auto-wins like Ivory Mask, Ivory Tower, and Zorb/Birth. 2-0 K-Run.

JP Meyer vs. ThaWise (Dark Keeper v. Bridge Black)

Ivory Mask is brutal against his deck. Dystopia should get me one game though. 2-1 me

DerangedParrot vs. bob (BBS v. Suicide)

We already know this.

Begbie vs. Burning Ice (RDK v. Ice Blue Zoo)

As I found out from T1ToC2, RDK will rape Ice Blue Zoo. 2-0 Begbie

And while it's still early, who's gonna win?


By Big Blue on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 09:13 am:

LOL - seems that my wish for Azhrei failed...

Well, to be consistent with my own post I predict 2-1 for Bogey - Oath is not The End with Factories, and 2 mana can be rather difficult to achieve. So game 1 is a toss-up, IMO, while games 2/3 are definitely in favour of Bogey.

Poor Academy... But they should be able to steal at least 1 game with a broken hand.

My victory-prediction: K-Run (The Emperor will be killed by Luke flying on Pegasi)


By The Maxx,. the Guru of Foolishness (Maxx) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 10:17 am:

JP, you forget one thing. The other 2 Kegs are in the SB, along with 4 other cards prepped for Sligh. :)

Never underestimate the power of Aggro Void.

And why is everyone so obsessed with more LD in Void? I figure you can get 1 or 2 right out of their hand, and you don't need to completely stop them from playing spells, just delay them enough to kill them. :)

Anyway, Just thought I'd throw that out there.

The Maxx


By Meridian (Meridian) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 11:28 am:


Quote:

Meridian vs. cooberp (Academy v. Dark Keeper)

See Gzeiger's prediction. 2-0 cooberp.




Academy can, and will, beat both Keeper and BBS ;)


By Arex (Arex) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 11:42 am:

Well, I think Mono Blue might havew a good chance to win it all again. Now, my deck, is not as good as the last 2 ToCs so I don't think I'll make top 8 this time, but hey, even the mexican underdog can be lucky. :) So, I'll try and do my best.

Good luck to all

Arex


By Azhrei (Azhrei) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 12:37 pm:

Monoblue will probably not beat Meridian. Monoblue will not beat Mirrors, so if they come into contention with me they're out.

Keeper will NOT beat Meridian unless they get lucky. Nether Void is *possibly* too slow to beat Academy, and the Helms negate the Void as well. Meridian will tear Mirrors wide open, so I concede defeat to him already. My money is on the combo unless bad luck against so many control decks is too much.


By ETP on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 12:44 pm:

I agree with the assessment of my matchup.. althouhg i think you may have been too nice thinking ill get even one win.


By The Maxx,. the Guru of Foolishness (Maxx) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 02:20 pm:

Well, I have won a few minis on IRC with my deck, so I am confident that it works. That being said, there are very few decks that I fear. Meridian's is one of them. If those helms hit(which I love by the way, I always wanted a way to use that card), I am done. They hurt a lot, especially with me being light on LD like I am.

The Maxx


By Elrond, the High Priest & Pokemon Slayer (Elrond) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 10:21 pm:

Well, Girls Gone Wild will win simply by virtue of a good name. The credit for that, BTW, is as much Azhrei's as the deck's design :)


By Deranged Parrot (Parrot) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 10:56 pm:

Well, I personally am calling this as either Meridian's or JP's tournament. Both probably beat BBS, and they both beat Az, so they win.


By JP 'Polluted' Meyer, the Archivist (Jpmeyer) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 11:25 pm:

Az-Helms don't negate Nether Void. If a Nether Void is in play, it doesn't matter how many Helms are there, you still need to pay 3 to cast a Mox. What happens is that the spell is put on the Stack. Then, Nether Void's ability triggers and is put on the stack. Therefore, Helms do nothing here. If 4 Helms are in play, it will cost U to cost Meditate. Nether Void then triggers and you must pay 3 or Meditate is countered.

Parrot-I dunno, I just don't see Meridian beating XL-U and me beating Mirrors. I can't fathom a combo deck beating a deck with 18 counters (and 7 of them being free.) If I play Mirrors we will be playing for like 3 hours since I'll most likely need to kill with Twister/Crypt.


By Azhrei (Azhrei) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 11:36 pm:

"URMage vs. White Knight (Rubefacere v. WW)

Rubber Face might have utility, but it's still a Sligh deck fighting a WW deck with Empyrial Armor. 2-1 White Knight"

Apparently the BEST SLIGH DECK EVER (tm) was underestimated, PUNK!

I meant negates it for Stroke, Spiral, etc..

Meridian can beat BBS, and I'm pretty sure I can take JP, though it will be a TOUGH match either way. Meridian owns me though.


By Chun Wang, the Initiate (Chunwang) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 11:53 pm:

i predict Tom M to take it all, or Tirx, go combo decks, or Gzeiger or Merdian.


By Rakso, Patriarch & Rules Ayatollah (Rakso) on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 04:00 am:

By the way... an archive for T1ToC 4 was created.

Request you post threads there directly, instead. Makes it easier to look over them later on.


By HavoKDarK on Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 01:34 am:

JP...

Most of the time I wont see too many creatures, but if such a case happens, I have easy SB food =).......


By Matt D'Avanzo, the Sylvan Librarian (Matt) on Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 04:53 pm:

From experience Nethervoid (if you playing something like Null and Void at least) is pretty scary stuff for Academy. A Nethervoid in play is just game over usually. Still no one was prepared for combo it seems since Void, for a combo area, ought to have Unmask in the sideboard to, with the Duresses, ensure first turn discard happens. Hard to kill their land/artifacts when you don't get a second swamp in play ya'know?

My prediction? Meridian ALMOST wins it all, but at a key moment he needs to kill an opponent's academy and drop his own...and has only one blue available....and wishes his Capsize was my Lingering Mirage! Sorry I couldn't help it.

I'm really thrilled to see him playing my deck (well almost) and wish him a whole host of turn one kills. I think he might be able to win it all. If he gets past round one with BBS (what is his sideboard...he siad it was different...) he'll be nigh-unstoppable.

However, if he/she is a good player (and doens't get ass draws) I think Beauty and the Beast Keeper will do something--IMO it is the overall best deck in the entire tourney.

Also, watch for Az to beat everyone/thing EXCEPT Parrot and Accolytec's BBS decks.

--Matt


By Azhrei (Azhrei) on Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 08:28 pm:

But I'm running a Sylvan Library!


By Sylvester (Sylvester) on Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 08:45 pm:

matt:mako's she. 2nd, it's swiss 8)


By Acolytec on Thursday, July 05, 2001 - 11:10 am:

Heya. Writing from paris on a horrid keyboard. will be home soon. Just wanted to say that my deck was the result of not enough prep time do to traveling... thus the staple Blue. Oh, and to Azh... = good luck with it. Blue wont die as easily as you think, i predict :)


By Azhrei (Azhrei) on Thursday, July 05, 2001 - 11:15 am:

Bah, sure it will. ;) I'm just wishing I had a second Lifeforce in my SB like my earlier build had. Oh well.


By Rakso, Patriarch & Rules Ayatollah (Rakso) on Thursday, July 05, 2001 - 11:33 am:

SYLVAN LIBRARAY? Gasp!


By Cooberp (Cooberp) on Thursday, July 05, 2001 - 12:07 pm:

Which build of Keeper is Beauty and the Beast Keeper?


By meh on Thursday, July 05, 2001 - 12:16 pm:

http://www.bdominia.com/discus/messages/9/16836.shtml?994130144

Those are all the decklists for ToC4.


By Meridian (Meridian) on Thursday, July 05, 2001 - 12:21 pm:

BTW, what record do we need to make top 8 anyways?


By Deranged Parrot (Parrot) on Thursday, July 05, 2001 - 01:27 pm:

Meridian- all 5-0's and 4-1's will make it in, and two 3-2's who lost mainly to the above players will make it in, if Maxx does true Swiss pairings.


By Mako Satou on Thursday, July 05, 2001 - 01:51 pm:

Thanx Matt, I'm glad someone likes my deck but I have to say I had alot of help with it both from the people here and my bf and local play group. You helped me with it quite a bit Matt and also Jp Meyer
RL sideboard is slightly different now. -1 cop red + 1 compost cause I got a second one considering enlightened tutor. or taking out moat for ivory mask or deed, moat does help save me versus critters but it also makes it so mishras and masticore can't attack

Mako Satou


By JP 'Polluted' Meyer, the Archivist (Jpmeyer) on Thursday, July 12, 2001 - 08:28 pm:

Here're the predictions for round 2!

Begbie (RDK) vs. Mr. Bye (an unsealed Ice Age starter)

Mr. Bye walks up to the table and concedes, leaving Begbie some time to go eat lunch. 2-0 Begbie

K-Run (Parfait) vs. Alhazard (Sligh)

Parfait was good against Sligh...then K-Run added 2 Masticore, another Story Circle, another Wrath of God, and a Humility. 2-0 K-Run

manic (Keeper) v. Burning Ice (Ice Blue Zoo)

Normally I think that Keeper with REBs is a terrible matchup for Ice Blue Zoo. However, manic is only running 3 and they're actually Pyroblasts! That will be a huge difference as Burning Ice runs 4 Misdirections. I predict Burning Ice getting a free win from being able to Misdirect a Pyroblast from a B2B/Thief to a land. 2-1 Burning Ice

Mako (Beauty and the Beast, which I really want to call "Beauty and the Beats") v. Redman (Azhrei WW)

This is probably the toughest matchup to call this round. I'm guessing that Mako will win game 1 (Meddling Mage isn't that good when it needs to stop both Abyss AND Masticore,) Redman takes game 2 with a fast Winter Orb or Null Rod (hey, Gorilla Shaman is still good in this matchup!) and Mako takes game 3 with her 2 Powder Kegs. 2-1 Mako

TomM (Wild PandeBurst) vs. URMage (Rubber Face)

Tom's deck can be very explosive. I remember a game against him with Stacker where I had constantly Wasted his land and thought my Juggernaut would be a sufficient clock...only to lose when he Attuned the combo in his graveyard, dropped 3 Moxen, and Replenished. Rubber Face just isn't that fast and Tom has lethal sideboard cards. However, I still can't leave give Rubber Face one game where it manages to resolve a Miner to lock the game. 2-1 Tom

Me (Dark Keeper) v. ETP (U/G Janky Beatdown)

At first when I saw I was playing ETP I thought I was paired down. :-) But he managed to 2-0 Tyger so the deck must be able to do something. Still, Abyss=scoop and he has no way to keep it off the table. Oh yeah, and I can side in Choke. 2-0 me

Azhrei (Mirrors) v. Arex (Mexican Zoo)

Arex should be able to get a game where he Duresses away an Oath and races Azhrei. But I doubt that he can do that twice. 2-1 Azhrei

CooberP (Dark Keeper) v. Deranged Parrot (BBS)

I think CooberP can win this off of Aura Fracture. It's been my experience that BBS really only beats Keeper through B2B since Keeper runs higher quality cards (just compare Merchant Scroll to Demonic Tutor and Duress to Mana Leak.) Of course, BBS gets dumb draws often so Parrot should pull a fast B2B out his ass for an easy win. 2-1 CooberP

BrimstoneDragon (RDK) v. Gzeiger (Academy)

Gzeiger doesn't have a switcheroo sideboard or Force of Will. 2-0 Brimstone

Acolytec (BBS) v. Chaos (BBS)

Emperor Acolytec knows how to play BBS and has a far superior version. 2-0 Acolytec

Bob (Suicide Black) v. The Maxx (Nether Void)

This basically comes down to whoever wins the cointoss. However, I'm going with Bob here since Powder Keg isn't great at stopping Suicide (all their guys have different CCs) and Bob is running 20 basic Swamps. 2-1 Bob

Sylvester (Peace of Crap) v. Jelal (Arena Rock)

We already know this (http://www.bdominia.com/discus/messages/9/17244.shtml?994898337)

ThaWise (Bridge Black) v. Ultimage (SRB)

If The Rack worked the way it should, I'd give this to ThaWise easily, since he can race The Rack against stuff like Shock and stay even with Lightning Bolts. However, now it's definetly 50/50, but I'm still giving it to ThaWise. 2-1 ThaWise

Bogey (Nether Void) v. White Knight (WW)

Bogey has the (proper, IMO) landkill-heavy Nether Void which should have the advantage here. He can kill multiple creatures with a single Keg PLUS any Kegs that White Knight is trying to build to 3. HOWEVER, Bogey will practically scoop if a Null Rod or a Land Tax (game 1) hits. But then Dystopia comes in and brutalizes WK. 2-1 Bogey.

Tir (Tirx) v. Tyger (Skies)

1) Tyger is running a blue aggro-control deck with 10 free counters
2) Tyger gets to side in 4 B2B
Tyger will win this easily just as long as Tir can't cast Diabolic Intent. 2-0 Tyger

Meridian (Academy AKA Tolarian Adjunct AKA Spiral Architecture) v. Elrond (Girls Gone Wild '01)

Elrond has only Duress and Hymn for disruption and a very slow clock. 2-0 Meridian


By Begbie on Thursday, July 12, 2001 - 09:09 pm:

Eh, way I've been playing, Bye might wipe me out.


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